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    Florida Clubs and Poor Coaching

    So I've heard people complain that US soccer training focuses too much on skills and drills without adding practical coaching instruction so that the skills gained translate into something practical on the field.

    So I've been watching lots of youth soccer the last two years since I have my boys playing for our local club. One thing that is driving me crazy is just how POOR all the clubs do in instructing THROW-INS.

    This is something that is done probably 40 times per game easily. Yet the kids rarely throw the ball to someone who is open. They rarely throw the ball at the player's feet. They rarely throw the ball backwards and switch the field. Most of the time the player receiving the ball are standing motionless.

    And I see this all over the place. It is driving me crazy. How hard is it to fix this problem but they simply do not care. I brought this up to one of our coaches. And he replied that "Kids all develop at different rates". Which to me sounded like a standard reply.

    In my mind I'm thinking *** does this has to do with development. THis is just common sense. When I was a kid playing redneck soccer with almost no training as a kid we did a hell of a better job throwing the ball in. It was the one thing perhaps we could do well.

    Yet I see kids getting flagged for improper throw-ins every game.

    Why are Throw-Ins and also very basic soccer tactics not being taught. I promise you my six year old's team throws the ball in as well as our U15 or U14 teams.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    So I've heard people complain that US soccer training focuses too much on skills and drills without adding practical coaching instruction so that the skills gained translate into something practical on the field.

    So I've been watching lots of youth soccer the last two years since I have my boys playing for our local club. One thing that is driving me crazy is just how POOR all the clubs do in instructing THROW-INS.

    This is something that is done probably 40 times per game easily. Yet the kids rarely throw the ball to someone who is open. They rarely throw the ball at the player's feet. They rarely throw the ball backwards and switch the field. Most of the time the player receiving the ball are standing motionless.

    And I see this all over the place. It is driving me crazy. How hard is it to fix this problem but they simply do not care. I brought this up to one of our coaches. And he replied that "Kids all develop at different rates". Which to me sounded like a standard reply.

    In my mind I'm thinking *** does this has to do with development. THis is just common sense. When I was a kid playing redneck soccer with almost no training as a kid we did a hell of a better job throwing the ball in. It was the one thing perhaps we could do well.

    Yet I see kids getting flagged for improper throw-ins every game.

    Why are Throw-Ins and also very basic soccer tactics not being taught. I promise you my six year old's team throws the ball in as well as our U15 or U14 teams.
    Throw ins and set pieces. We never practice them, not even 5 minutes. The hope is by U16 we know how to do them but nope. You'd think with the % of World Cup goals scored off of set pieces we'd learn something but nope.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Throw ins and set pieces. We never practice them, not even 5 minutes. The hope is by U16 we know how to do them but nope. You'd think with the % of World Cup goals scored off of set pieces we'd learn something but nope.
      My child is a goalkeeper and has asked the coach on many occasions if the team can work on free kicks and corner kicks so she can work on defending them and judging the ball and working through traffic. It has happened one time in the last year.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Throw ins and set pieces. We never practice them, not even 5 minutes. The hope is by U16 we know how to do them but nope. You'd think with the % of World Cup goals scored off of set pieces we'd learn something but nope.
        set pieces don't exist in florida soccer. you are right. few kids know how to strike a ball to get it over a wall with spin. i don't know how many corners i see where no one makes a run at the second post. coaching ...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          So I've heard people complain that US soccer training focuses too much on skills and drills without adding practical coaching instruction so that the skills gained translate into something practical on the field. ...

          Why are Throw-Ins and also very basic soccer tactics not being taught. I promise you my six year old's team throws the ball in as well as our U15 or U14 teams.
          I share your frustration. This past weekend I watched bad throw ins from U18 and U19 competitive teams in a league that should definitely know better! And even the proper throw ins were 100% "up the line" rather than to the best open player. Do they never tell these kids that sometimes the best throw is down the pitch rather than offensively?

          Some odd basics like throw ins and set pieces definitely seem to be overlooked when it comes to coaching.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            set pieces don't exist in florida soccer. you are right. few kids know how to strike a ball to get it over a wall with spin. i don't know how many corners i see where no one makes a run at the second post. coaching ...
            If I had a dollar for each missed goal scoring opportunity I've seen from a corner over the last decade, I could buy an MLS team.

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              #7
              I have never seen such a lack of coaching in such an important area. Throw ins especially are not taught - not even how to make long throws v.s. short throws.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I share your frustration. This past weekend I watched bad throw ins from U18 and U19 competitive teams in a league that should definitely know better! And even the proper throw ins were 100% "up the line" rather than to the best open player. Do they never tell these kids that sometimes the best throw is down the pitch rather than offensively?

                Some odd basics like throw ins and set pieces definitely seem to be overlooked when it comes to coaching.
                yes, a throw in down the pitch!!! one of my pet peeves. why go to your completely open centerback who can switch the point of attack when your forward is asking for the ball with 3 defenders on him! always go forward and lose the ball. its the florida way.

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                  #9
                  I wish this was the most important problem in American youth soccer...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Just a Coach View Post
                    I wish this was the most important problem in American youth soccer...
                    True. But why not solve the easy problems when you can?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      True. But why not solve the easy problems when you can?
                      It would be nice to fix this problem but the Coaches are the problem. They don't see this is a problem so it will never be fixed.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So I've heard people complain that US soccer training focuses too much on skills and drills without adding practical coaching instruction so that the skills gained translate into something practical on the field.

                        So I've been watching lots of youth soccer the last two years since I have my boys playing for our local club. One thing that is driving me crazy is just how POOR all the clubs do in instructing THROW-INS.

                        This is something that is done probably 40 times per game easily. Yet the kids rarely throw the ball to someone who is open. They rarely throw the ball at the player's feet. They rarely throw the ball backwards and switch the field. Most of the time the player receiving the ball are standing motionless.

                        And I see this all over the place. It is driving me crazy. How hard is it to fix this problem but they simply do not care. I brought this up to one of our coaches. And he replied that "Kids all develop at different rates". Which to me sounded like a standard reply.

                        In my mind I'm thinking *** does this has to do with development. THis is just common sense. When I was a kid playing redneck soccer with almost no training as a kid we did a hell of a better job throwing the ball in. It was the one thing perhaps we could do well.

                        Yet I see kids getting flagged for improper throw-ins every game.

                        Why are Throw-Ins and also very basic soccer tactics not being taught. I promise you my six year old's team throws the ball in as well as our U15 or U14 teams.
                        Your right but this is a Florida issue your behind on all aspects . There is no training because it’s all designed to play ping pong and win games so more kids come to club which equates to more money. Florida soccer is the biggest scam I have ever seen. I am new here and maybe you don’t see it anymore but I do as clear as day. Problem is it’s not just your club it’s every club I visit. It’s painful and frustrating but your trapped

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                          #13
                          Glad I'm not alone

                          Well it appears my post has touched a nerve. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices this. After I started this thread last night I was watching an MLS game. First dang throw-in and they swing it in backwards to the open man (the centerback) and switched the field. And I'm like see there you go. How hard was that?

                          It is nice to be able to come here and vent knowing others are experiencing the same thing. In the two plus years we have been with the club our team has practiced set pieces one time. And that was two years ago now.

                          One of the other parents I talked to said the club doesn't believe in teaching patterns or pre-planned movements. And my first thought was how when my club boy five years ago played basketball and his coach had his team already learning picks, screens, etc.... If they would only talk to the boys they can learn how to throw the ball into the open man. I'm not asking for anything complicated. Just things like

                          1) Throw the ball to open man
                          2) Fake like you are going to throw to the covered guy then throw to the open man
                          3) Using the centerback to switch the field off the throw in
                          4) Learn how to step into your throw for longer throw-ins
                          5) Where players should position themselves to receive throw-ins..

                          Again this is skill used 30 to 50 times per game. You would think it would be a point of emphasis along with some simple cornerkick set pieces. They don't have to learn a bunch just teach them three or four tactics.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered-J View Post
                            Well it appears my post has touched a nerve. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices this. After I started this thread last night I was watching an MLS game. First dang throw-in and they swing it in backwards to the open man (the centerback) and switched the field. And I'm like see there you go. How hard was that?

                            It is nice to be able to come here and vent knowing others are experiencing the same thing. In the two plus years we have been with the club our team has practiced set pieces one time. And that was two years ago now.

                            One of the other parents I talked to said the club doesn't believe in teaching patterns or pre-planned movements. And my first thought was how when my club boy five years ago played basketball and his coach had his team already learning picks, screens, etc.... If they would only talk to the boys they can learn how to throw the ball into the open man. I'm not asking for anything complicated. Just things like

                            1) Throw the ball to open man
                            2) Fake like you are going to throw to the covered guy then throw to the open man
                            3) Using the centerback to switch the field off the throw in
                            4) Learn how to step into your throw for longer throw-ins
                            5) Where players should position themselves to receive throw-ins..

                            Again this is skill used 30 to 50 times per game. You would think it would be a point of emphasis along with some simple cornerkick set pieces. They don't have to learn a bunch just teach them three or four tactics.
                            "Again this is skill used 30 to 50 times per game."

                            I like your enthusiam for this topic - but - if you watch the higher levels of soccer (and I'm not going to mention youth leagues, college, pro, etc. by name) games with the better teams that are more techincal, the ball doesn't really go out of bounds that much. So it is nowhere near "30 to 50 times per game" it is more like 2-3 times a game. I watched the US WNT play Canada tonight, there was not a single throw-in. So it makes sense that teams would not work on it that much.....

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              "Again this is skill used 30 to 50 times per game."

                              I like your enthusiam for this topic - but - if you watch the higher levels of soccer (and I'm not going to mention youth leagues, college, pro, etc. by name) games with the better teams that are more techincal, the ball doesn't really go out of bounds that much. So it is nowhere near "30 to 50 times per game" it is more like 2-3 times a game. I watched the US WNT play Canada tonight, there was not a single throw-in. So it makes sense that teams would not work on it that much.....
                              There are professional teams in Europe that have hired coaches that just specialize in throw ins. And I think each team in the pros probably does about 20 throw ins per game even in Europe. I do agree the ball goes out of bounds a lot less.

                              According to this article throw-ins occur 40-50 times per match.

                              https://sportscatel.com/throw-ins-sh...ecialist-coach

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