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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSeveral years of only doing "ok" to less than ok is a sign of trouble, although frankly some schools and AD's just don't care as long as it's running smoothly. Problem is there are many reasons why a coach might leave, sometimes very unpredictably. Assuming you're going to the school for all the right reasons and the soccer is a good fit and you play a lot, you've got a better chance of staying if a new one comes in. Non starters are the ones who should be nervous. On a roster of 25 that will be many of them
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCouldn't agree more, glad someone else gets it. And no, btdt I'm not the person who posted the above.
I stumbled on TS when my kid started club soccer and I was trying to figure things out. His point of view is so destructive, and because I absorbed some of his pov I almost derailed my kid's "career". It turns out, now in high school, my kid is a very strong player, much stronger than I ever realized because I thought all parents were deluded, and most club players were crap. It is why I'm one of those who often calls him out.
He never says set your sights low, he just says be sure (s)he is really that good.
He never disparages D3 (ever!).
He does disparage parents who proclaim D3 superiority when D1 pursuit fails.
He does caution all on the commitments of D1
The only mean-spirited person on this site is the snob who uses "butt head state" amd the person who makes fun of MCLA as a young girls choice. That person isn reprehensiblee.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo once again you are posting with nothing to discredit the content of his posts - you actually agree with him - you just don't like his motivation. His advice is pretty simple and pretty good: Target right.
He never says set your sights low, he just says be sure (s)he is really that good.
He never disparages D3 (ever!).
He does disparage parents who proclaim D3 superiority when D1 pursuit fails.
He does caution all on the commitments of D1
The only mean-spirited person on this site is the snob who uses "butt head state" amd the person who makes fun of MCLA as a young girls choice. That person isn reprehensiblee.
Well....with your last line....now there are two mean-spirited people.
Although your some of what you say is correct, I think (and I might be wrong) when people talk about D3, none claim that the overall soccer is better. Although I safely claim that the best D3 teams are better than the lower D1 teams. There is a bell-shaped overlap.
The only talk about D3 superiority, I believe, is when one talks about the inclusion of academics. Even that, I don't believe that there is a superior academics in one division over the other. However, when kids choose D1 soccer they are likely to select the D1 (or D2) program that is accepting them i.e. academics MAY take a backseat. However, if the kid is choosing D3 it SEEMS as though the academics are the higher priority. There is no doubt in my mind that the combination of Williams Academics (or almost any NESCAC school) and soccer is superior to Providence Soccer and Academics.
As for commitments, I think that all agree on caution. Parents are very delusional that the financial reward in D1 and D2 high. My kid can get as much or more from local community, and school rewards than 90% can get from athletic scholarships. If they are getting the former then they have earned them and will likely continue to earn them. The sports scholarships are dependent on you playing, and most (not all) are reassessed yearly i.e. dependent on the coach.
As for BTDT....I have no idea how you can tell which posts are his....without some kind of signature..
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostStop with the “going to school for the right reason” crap. D1 you’re there to play soccer. It’s your job. They don’t give away scholarship money on a D1 college soccer team for benevolence.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo once again you are posting with nothing to discredit the content of his posts - you actually agree with him - you just don't like his motivation. His advice is pretty simple and pretty good: Target right.
He never says set your sights low, he just says be sure (s)he is really that good.
He never disparages D3 (ever!).
He does disparage parents who proclaim D3 superiority when D1 pursuit fails.
He does caution all on the commitments of D1
The only mean-spirited person on this site is the snob who uses "butt head state" amd the person who makes fun of MCLA as a young girls choice. That person isn reprehensiblee.
BTW, families that choose D3 in the end, even if it is because they are true D1 studs, ARE targeting right, for them.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo once again you are posting with nothing to discredit the content of his posts - you actually agree with him - you just don't like his motivation. His advice is pretty simple and pretty good: Target right.
He never says set your sights low, he just says be sure (s)he is really that good.
He never disparages D3 (ever!).
He does disparage parents who proclaim D3 superiority when D1 pursuit fails.
He does caution all on the commitments of D1
The only mean-spirited person on this site is the snob who uses "butt head state" amd the person who makes fun of MCLA as a young girls choice. That person isn reprehensiblee.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNever disparages D3? Never? You mean like for except every single day. Never seen him trash Brandeis, Tufts, and the all the very good D3s he could have sent his kid to but forced her to Siberia? Never seen him repeat over and over that you only need to play high school soccer and show up at the start of the D3 season in order to play D3?
BTW, families that choose D3 in the end, even if it is because they are true D1 studs, ARE targeting right, for them.
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Once again a valuable discussion about the nuances of D1 recruiting has gotten side tracked by Ahab and his white whale obsession.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou must be a college coach. So when you get fired from your "job" or quit then what? You find out you don't like the school and are scrambling to find something else? Great plan. Depending on the package sometimes it's slave wages. Give up your life for $10K off the sticker price? Your life job is to get a good education and find your career path. No one is going pro - and if that's your goal you shouldn't be in college anyway.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFunny, I guess the same could be said about you. You are upset because your kid ended up at what , Brandeis or Emory, because they couldn’t get into Harvard or Yale. For many that is an equivalent Siberia.
And since you wrote the next post too....."nuances" of D1....now that is hilarious. Yeah, your "insights" are so fine-grained and illuminating.
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Listen. Enough already. My kid is a D1 stud and her soccer doings are very, very serious stuff. There's an excellent chance I'll get to see her play soon on the Lifetime Channel.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSeveral years of only doing "ok" to less than ok is a sign of trouble, although frankly some schools and AD's just don't care as long as it's running smoothly. Problem is there are many reasons why a coach might leave, sometimes very unpredictably. Assuming you're going to the school for all the right reasons and the soccer is a good fit and you play a lot, you've got a better chance of staying if a new one comes in. Non starters are the ones who should be nervous. On a roster of 25 that will be many of them
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostRight. And you don't disparage D3s....ever. And fyi, even Harvard and Yale grads don't think for a second that Brandeis or Emory is Siberia.
And since you wrote the next post too....."nuances" of D1....now that is hilarious. Yeah, your "insights" are so fine-grained and illuminating.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostListen. Enough already. My kid is a D1 stud and her soccer doings are very, very serious stuff. There's an excellent chance I'll get to see her play soon on the Lifetime Channel.
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