New recruiting rules

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True. They are human and make mistakes with recruiting as do recruits.
I'm not from NE and have been told to avoid the NE market as they only promote their locals. We had been looking NE, but stopped. If you are local, great. If not, look elsewhere.

Not at all true and depends on the program. If a coach wants you they dont care if you come from Timbuktu. Coaches do know, however, that most kids want to go to a school no more than a half days drive from home. In the NE that covers a lot of territory and a lot of players. They don't want to spend too much time on players that decide it's too far.

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NCAA probably doesn't understand the politics involved. A club coach can pass along the info or choose not to. A club coach can steer a coach to a player or vice versa. They should be taken out of the mix entirely.

They understand completely. You think other sports don't have loopholes and intermediaries?

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They understand completely. You think other sports don't have loopholes and intermediaries?

Then why bother with changes that change nothing?

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Then why bother with changes that change nothing?

OP here - I've no idea. All indications were that the loopholes was going to closed. All they did was change a few contact dates. So, it seems they don't mind the intermediaries.

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OP here - I've no idea. All indications were that the loopholes was going to closed. All they did was change a few contact dates. So, it seems they don't mind the intermediaries.

The California soccer gurus see it differently;

“My understanding:

Prior to 6/15 after Sophomore year, college coach can no longer have any contact - not even if student initiates and not through club coach. So yes, after May 1 no more emailing, calling or having club coach facilitate communication until 6/15 for your DD.

However, “contact” is currently defined as off campus and I didn’t read anything about that changing, so I believe a college coach can still talk to a prospect face to face at an ID camp anytime.”

California hotbed parents usually have a good grasp of what’s going on. The NCAA needs to make some clarifications if people have such opposite understandings of what the new rules mean!

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The California soccer gurus see it differently;

“My understanding:

Prior to 6/15 after Sophomore year, college coach can no longer have any contact - not even if student initiates and not through club coach. So yes, after May 1 no more emailing, calling or having club coach facilitate communication until 6/15 for your DD.

However, “contact” is currently defined as off campus and I didn’t read anything about that changing, so I believe a college coach can still talk to a prospect face to face at an ID camp anytime.”

California hotbed parents usually have a good grasp of what’s going on. The NCAA needs to make some clarifications if people have such opposite understandings of what the new rules mean!

This is completely wrong. The rules are that player initiated contact to coaches on the phone are still allowed prior to June 15 after their sophomore year. The only loophole that was closed was recruiting conversations at ID clinics, which can't happen prior to June 15 of the recruits sophomore year. That and the date above was pushed back from Sept 1.

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This is completely wrong. The rules are that player initiated contact to coaches on the phone are still allowed prior to June 15 after their sophomore year. The only loophole that was closed was recruiting conversations at ID clinics, which can't happen prior to June 15 of the recruits sophomore year. That and the date above was pushed back from Sept 1.

Then why would the ncaa say the rules will stop early recruiting when they actually are making it easier to recruit earlier?

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Then why would the ncaa say the rules will stop early recruiting when they actually are making it easier to recruit earlier?

Tje date change is minor and isn't that much earlier. Its the player initiated phone calls and club coach go betweens that are the primary facilitators of early recruiting. If a player can still call or email or club coaches can act as a representative then early recruiting will still go on.

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Then why would the ncaa say the rules will stop early recruiting when they actually are making it easier to recruit earlier?

Because no conversations can happen at ID clinics regarding recruiting, which previously allowed coaches to provide verbal offers at those same clinics. Also, unofficial visit recruiting conversations are also locked down prior to June 15 after sophomore year, which was also a loophole. Now unofficial and official visits all happen in Junior year.

Understand, players still need to be working to ID colleges, programs, etc and reaching out to coaches as freshmen and sophomores to get on their radar. NCAA had no intention of shutting that down. Come June 15 prior to Junior year, the floodgates of offers will open. If a player waits until junior year to start the process for D1 recruiting, they will be left behind. The idea was to slow or eliminate offers prior to Junior year. That will happen as coaches are very limited in terms of contact. For 95% of recruits, this will be the case.

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What about declining offers,are there repercussions in doing so.?

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What about declining offers,are there repercussions in doing so.?

In our experience, the other Coaches understand that kids need to do what is best for them (proximity, academics, $$$, etc.). Sometimes they take it personally (don't like loosing a recruit to a rival, another coach...the competition is more than just on the field), but they get over it. It's business for the recruit too. Most just move on to the next on their list.

Many know not to shut the door because that recruit could come back later in the process or as a transfer.

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Last line is crucial for recruits also. Never burn bridges. Your verbal offer could fall apart or the coach leaves or you start school and realize you made a mistake.

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Unfortunately, the NCAA didn’t require forceable removal of players under 16 from the care of their nutty parents who are hellbent on passing love notes to college coaches thru their club coach. You do realize your kids are watching you when you try to flaunt the rules? Great example you are setting!

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Last line is crucial for recruits also. Never burn bridges. Your verbal offer could fall apart or the coach leaves or you start school and realize you made a mistake.

Agreed. Transfers don't always happen in freshman year. It's more common in soph/jr yr.

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Unfortunately, the NCAA didn’t require forceable removal of players under 16 from the care of their nutty parents who are hellbent on passing love notes to college coaches thru their club coach. You do realize your kids are watching you when you try to flaunt the rules? Great example you are setting!

You sir are an absolute idiot. Why in the world would you characterize parents as nutty for doing exactly what they are being told to do by their clubs? You clearly don't seem to grasp that for most families the recruiting process is substantially actually over by the time they get to 16.