It's because we put out such good national players.. we need the blasé training to begin at the younger years now.
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As someone said - the theory is sound, the execution leaves a lot to be desiredOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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you must be kidding. You act as if the kid does not make a DA team there is no place to play soccer. You complain the US Men's national team is not good enough. However when US soccer comes up with a way to identify gifted players early you complain about that. Lets face it. It does not matter what is done, how its done or when its done. There will be a group on TS that complains. You complained about the old system for years. When a new system is put into action all you want is the old system. Incredible. They way you develop better soccer players is identifying gifted players early and getting them the best coaching at an early age, while continuing to look for gifted players to bring into the program. Sorry if you can not recognize this is a step in the right direction. There needs to be more tiers in the soccer pyramid. There can't be 12 elite teams in every age group in portland, or 8 travel clubs on the west side. Just like the school system, there are not enough quality teachers/coaches and resources are spread to thin. The current system is the best there has been. Is it perfect? No! It never will be and it will continue to change and grow over the years.Comment
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Too young. And we don't have 12 elite teams and travel clubs in our ten and eleven year old age groups. This is OYSA be damned.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Nor do we want 12 elite travel teams in this age group. 0 is enough. Ridiculous.Comment
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We are part of the DA and it is most certainly not a profit-center for us. In fact we had a deficit on it last year.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Saw enough good things that we will continue (and frankly try to take to other parts of our club). The fact that we are continuing with it doesn't mean we are sold (or sell it) 100%. There are aspects to it that are experimental.Comment
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Appreciate the honestly. What's experimental so far? What's working Vs not working?Comment
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The DA was suppose to $500 for the year. What the hell happened to that? Everyone got stuck the club price.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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DAs are expensive to run. Don't know where the $500 rumor started.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Are you asking the price to families or cost to club?Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Price to families is up to the club.
In terms of cost to club, probably higher for core program (meaning no out of state travel). Factors include coaching cost and additional training field cost.
The coaching costs depends a bit on whether direct DA coaching is part of the DOC's job or not; different clubs answer that differently. The licensing expectations are much higher for DA than a standard u12 boys team; further the fall/spring nature makes it hard for college coaches to serve as head coaches. So you have a finite number of "qualified" coaches for the program. An A or B licensed coach has higher salary expectations.
Often, clubs are having a DOC serve as DA coach. Incrementally, no expense, but from an opportunity cost perspective a rather significant one (DOC is the highest salary on the payroll; hard to justify all their time spent on 1 or 2 teams).
Add in the 50% more practice time (3x training per week v. 2x).
Honestly haven't compared the P&L of u12 boys team inside and outside of DA, but am comfortable that those factors drive some of the costs upwards for DA.Comment
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It's the same price as the club's top teams which is roughly $1600 plus travel and tournament expenses. Maybe cheaper for U11 premier team.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Most top level clubs are already providing training 3 days a week.Comment
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No it is not. US Soccer encourages clubs to keep costs low, if possible. Either via lower fees or via scholarships for players that would otherwise be priced out.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Typically only DA programs that fall under MLS teams have fully-funded or mostly-funded programs.
Timbers charge a $500 equipment fee. Everything else is included (travel, etc..)
As of a couple of years ago DC United was still charging significant fees. Not sure if that has changed. Each DA is different
Most non-MLS DAs still have to charge because there are no first teams to fund them, and there is no training compensation mechanisms to help clubs get any ROI.
Ask any club director and they will tell you running the DA program is expensive and most of the Oregon clubs ran the program at a deficit this year.Comment
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