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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You mean where the top teams in the Ivy League stand. Maybe.
    Naturally. That's who's left at this time of year. Top teams from each conference. Nobody's interested in comparing the cellar dweller teams from the various conferences. That said, if the top Ivy fares well against NC State in the second round, that will say something (imho).

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Naturally. That's who's left at this time of year. Top teams from each conference. Nobody's interested in comparing the cellar dweller teams from the various conferences. That said, if the top Ivy fares well against NC State in the second round, that will say something (imho).
      Princeton already beat NC St 2-0 this season. Too bad they have to deal with them again.

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        #18
        Seeded teams go 14-2. Average margin of victory 3 goals for the winners.

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          #19
          First round is always full of tomato cans. Teams that even BC would beat. ;) Sorry Eagleman. Hopefully some more competitive games ahead.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            First round is always full of tomato cans. Teams that even BC would beat. ;) Sorry Eagleman. Hopefully some more competitive games ahead.
            This statement really does put the gulf between the contenders and the pretenders into focus though. These are arguably the best 64 teams in the country this year and even amongst them the gulf is noticeably huge, imagine what it is when you get down to the middle of the division or lower where most of our local college programs are at.

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              #21
              NCAA Second Round

              Now that we have disposed of most of the pretenders, we can concentrate on round 2. In this round we look at each sub-bracket of 4 teams. The seeded team presumably faces the best remaining team, the one that will challenge whether that seed is deserved. The first focus will concern the pairing of second tier ACC teams that are unseeded against a seeded team:

              ND vs Texas A&M (SEC)

              NC St vs Princeton (Ivy)

              WF vs Penn St (Big 10)

              Clemson vs Texas (Big 12)

              Last season the ACC was crushed in this round. Let's see what happens this year.

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                #22
                Most of the other games will be of little concern, but here are four others:

                Rutgers vs WVU

                The latter isn't as good as last season, and Rutgers may have a shot.

                Pepperdine vs UVA

                The latter hasn't been as good since MB and MD left. The former tied UCLA. Possible upset.

                USF vs Florida

                Should be close.

                Arizona vs FSU

                The former had a great season for them. FSU has been inconsistent this year.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Now that we have disposed of most of the pretenders, we can concentrate on round 2. In this round we look at each sub-bracket of 4 teams. The seeded team presumably faces the best remaining team, the one that will challenge whether that seed is deserved. The first focus will concern the pairing of second tier ACC teams that are unseeded against a seeded team:

                  ND vs Texas A&M (SEC)

                  NC St vs Princeton (Ivy)

                  WF vs Penn St (Big 10)

                  Clemson vs Texas (Big 12)

                  Last season the ACC was crushed in this round. Let's see what happens this year.
                  So let's start with a correction. On that other thread it was stated that "The season is OVA!" Actually the season is in full swing. More correctly, THEIR season is over!
                  Meanwhile I'll be watching NC St vs Princeton on ESPN 3 at 2:30PM. Too bad it is in NC. Princeton is the seeded team but it is practically a home game for NC St. That has perennially been the bitch in the ACC. That with teams up and down the eastern seaboard, why are all of the tournaments in NC? At least the weather will probably be better.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This statement really does put the gulf between the contenders and the pretenders into focus though. These are arguably the best 64 teams in the country this year and even amongst them the gulf is noticeably huge, imagine what it is when you get down to the middle of the division or lower where most of our local college programs are at.
                    Say this ALL the time when people on these boards use D1 as some badge of soccer merit. I get ti, its not easy to play soccer in College for many, but that is because of the following fact.

                    there are about 20 good teams every year. of the 20, 10 of them are there every year. Outside of those, the quality is .... So you have the perennial top 10 teams who get a look on probably 80 pct of the top players every year. You get the rest battling over teh 20 pct left ...and then you have almost every other player with aspirations to play having a chance at playing. So the competition among the average player is fierce becasue there is a place at which they can play. not the Super 10, but almost everywhere else.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Say this ALL the time when people on these boards use D1 as some badge of soccer merit. I get ti, its not easy to play soccer in College for many, but that is because of the following fact.

                      there are about 20 good teams every year. of the 20, 10 of them are there every year. Outside of those, the quality is .... So you have the perennial top 10 teams who get a look on probably 80 pct of the top players every year. You get the rest battling over teh 20 pct left ...and then you have almost every other player with aspirations to play having a chance at playing. So the competition among the average player is fierce becasue there is a place at which they can play. not the Super 10, but almost everywhere else.
                      Yeah, the first two rounds are clearing out the dead wood. Unfortunately, several worthy teams get upset. The tournament begins when we have 16 teams left.

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                        #26
                        Twisted BC eaglefan logic has infected this site Truly "worthy" teams, as determined on the field, win. Only in the Cambridge of Newton, at the Harvard of Newton, do worthy teams drop games to lesser squads and permanently reign supreme. ;)

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Yeah, the first two rounds are clearing out the dead wood. Unfortunately, several worthy teams get upset. The tournament begins when we have 16 teams left.
                          Why is that unfortunate? If they were all that, they would have won.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Twisted BC eaglefan logic has infected this site Truly "worthy" teams, as determined on the field, win. Only in the Cambridge of Newton, at the Harvard of Newton, do worthy teams drop games to lesser squads and permanently reign supreme. ;)
                            Using the same logic, how can the Harvard of Newton lose to a miserable Harvard of Cambridge and still reign supreme over New England?

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Why is that unfortunate? If they were all that, they would have won.
                              The logic here is stunning. Its a single elimination event. Luck plays a huge part. The better team that day advances IF you define better as simply who won, personally I dont, but thats ok.

                              To me, a team establishes its "worth" in the regualr season over a larger sample size of games. that is not erased if the lose one game in tough circumstances.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The logic here is stunning. Its a single elimination event. Luck plays a huge part. The better team that day advances IF you define better as simply who won, personally I dont, but thats ok.

                                To me, a team establishes its "worth" in the regualr season over a larger sample size of games. that is not erased if the lose one game in tough circumstances.
                                Upsets are the beauty of any tournament.

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