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**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

You are all acting as if I'm comparing Friedel and Zidane as players. They are both former players who had little to no experience when they got their first head coaching job, that's a fact. We're not comparing the two as players.

One was an ok pro goalie. The other was one of the top three players in the world at mid for a decade.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 12:50 PM

meh...

twitter:
Mike Burns is mentioned in Friedel's autobiography #NERevs

"Without a club, I went over to Denmark. A good friend of mine, Mike Burns, was with Viborg and I trained with them just to keep myself fit"

..........
same ****e, diff day

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

One was an ok pro goalie. The other was one of the top three players in the world at mid for a decade.

And everyone who read the post understood that their careers and individual achievements as players weren't being compared. It was an unbelievably simple point being made that really didn't warrant a second thought.

Friedel entering the pro coaching ranks after a long career as an international player after a quick transition into coaching is not unique or new. It's more similar than dissimilar to the likes of Pep and Zidane, whether these examples were playing legends or are on their way to be legendary managers isn't relevant or an implication that Friedel was or will become a legend too. The point was the similarity in time and progression in the coaching ranks and the familiarity of the examples.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

And everyone who read the post understood that their careers and individual achievements as players weren't being compared. It was an unbelievably simple point being made that really didn't warrant a second thought.

Friedel entering the pro coaching ranks after a long career as an international player after a quick transition into coaching is not unique or new. It's more similar than dissimilar to the likes of Pep and Zidane, whether these examples were playing legends or are on their way to be legendary managers isn't relevant or an implication that Friedel was or will become a legend too. The point was the similarity in time and progression in the coaching ranks and the familiarity of the examples.

You are not getting the reason people are ridiculing you for a justifiable reason. Zidane was a "coach" on the field, an exceptionally brilliant player. Does that help you?

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

And everyone who read the post understood that their careers and individual achievements as players weren't being compared. It was an unbelievably simple point being made that really didn't warrant a second thought.

Friedel entering the pro coaching ranks after a long career as an international player after a quick transition into coaching is not unique or new. It's more similar than dissimilar to the likes of Pep and Zidane, whether these examples were playing legends or are on their way to be legendary managers isn't relevant or an implication that Friedel was or will become a legend too. The point was the similarity in time and progression in the coaching ranks and the familiarity of the examples.

Oh my.. Thank you, atleast someone gets it. I'm not sure I could have written it in more plain English.

Listen though, I'm indifferent about Friedel being the head coach until I've seen the roster he builds and how he coaches it. I have a feeling it will be more of the same, but I think it's only fair to give him a chance before saying he's not cut out for the job.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

You are not getting the reason people are ridiculing you for a justifiable reason. Zidane was a "coach" on the field, an exceptionally brilliant player. Does that help you?

No, how was Zidane a coach on the field?? What are you even saying. He went out there and went about his business like any other top player.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

You are not getting the reason people are ridiculing you for a justifiable reason. Zidane was a "coach" on the field, an exceptionally brilliant player. Does that help you?

Not one of my prior posts has received any ridicule, sorry to disappoint you in confusing me with someone else. I've just found the objections to the comparison obtuse, if not disingenuous. And for what it's worth, by further arguing that any attributes of Zidane as a player being distinct from Friedel helps make your case, I'm leaning towards obtuse.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

And everyone who read the post understood that their careers and individual achievements as players weren't being compared. It was an unbelievably simple point being made that really didn't warrant a second thought.

Friedel entering the pro coaching ranks after a long career as an international player after a quick transition into coaching is not unique or new. It's more similar than dissimilar to the likes of Pep and Zidane, whether these examples were playing legends or are on their way to be legendary managers isn't relevant or an implication that Friedel was or will become a legend too. The point was the similarity in time and progression in the coaching ranks and the familiarity of the examples.

The objection to drawing the similarities between Friedel and Pep and Zidane is exactly because it's uselessly superficial. Not they'd need me to "defend" them on this pissant board, but it's kind of insulting to bring Pep and Zidane up in comparison if one is trying to substantiate the selection.

MORE notable - that Burns had to reach into his friend network to find someone, anyone, to take the position. Who is doing the favor here? Burns for giving Friedel a head coaching spot or Friedel for agreeing to a crap job b/c now the Revs get to have a recognizable name?

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

You are not getting the reason people are ridiculing you for a justifiable reason. Zidane was a "coach" on the field, an exceptionally brilliant player. Does that help you?

Zidane was a "coach" on the field, but Friedel wasn't? Got it. Thanks. LOL

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

but it's kind of insulting to bring Pep and Zidane up in comparison

Nope, just simple.

Former internationals who went from not formally coaching at all, to brief coaching stints within youth academy sides, to the professional ranks within a span of just years, not decades.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

MORE notable - that Burns had to reach into his friend network to find someone, anyone, to take the position. Who is doing the favor here? Burns for giving Friedel a head coaching spot or Friedel for agreeing to a crap job b/c now the Revs get to have a recognizable name?

That's one way to look at it. Welcome to the business world.

**Unregistered** · 11-09-2017, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

MORE notable - that Burns had to reach into his friend network to find someone, anyone, to take the position. Who is doing the favor here? Burns for giving Friedel a head coaching spot or Friedel for agreeing to a crap job b/c now the Revs get to have a recognizable name?

Status quo. Don't make waves. Old boys network.

What a waste