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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The only part of your blathering on that pertains to my point is your first sentence. I'd like to see the link to the Oregon GPA being 3.44. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying that I don't think it's public information. I suspect it came from an insider, and I suspect I know who it is.

    And regarding team grades. Do you think a coach cares about great grades? They do only if it comes with outstanding results on the field. Which would Kat rather have, a team GPA of 3.44 and the abysmal results she had this year, or a 2.93 GPA and a top 4 finish in the conference and a couple of tournament wins? She probably wishes the players were working on soccer more often than they were studying. Acceptable grades is all that matters to her.
    If you think a PAC-12 Women's soccer coach doesn't care about grades or the team GPA it is further proof that you do not have a daughter playing in the PAC-12, probably not any college soccer program and that you do not know anyone who has, they care, very much.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      If you think a PAC-12 Women's soccer coach doesn't care about grades or the team GPA it is further proof that you do not have a daughter playing in the PAC-12, probably not any college soccer program and that you do not know anyone who has, they care, very much.
      Your post could not be further from reality than The Easter Bunny. You are completely clueless. Grades don't keep a coach employed, wins do. If a coach is winning, then they care about grades. The grades are the responsibility of the academic advisor. If the team doesn't make grades, the advisor pays the price. And each team has an advisor whose sole responsibility is to get the players into the right classes and to make sure that grades are acceptable. The coach cares about accomplishment on the field.

      Sincerely,

      The parent of a PAC 12 player

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        If you think a PAC-12 Women's soccer coach doesn't care about grades or the team GPA it is further proof that you do not have a daughter playing in the PAC-12, probably not any college soccer program and that you do not know anyone who has, they care, very much.
        Truth. Grades and team gpa are important. Even for recruiting purposes. Smarter is better in school, in soccer & in life. The high gpa recruits enable coaches to recruit some of the dumb ones and still keep their team average from going too low.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Truth. Grades and team gpa are important. Even for recruiting purposes. Smarter is better in school, in soccer & in life. The high gpa recruits enable coaches to recruit some of the dumb ones and still keep their team average from going too low.
          Once again, someone who doesn't understand college soccer and college soccer coaches. A coach and an AD care about results on the field first. Once that is achieved, then grades are important. Of course a coach is going to talk to recruits about grades and achievements in the classroom because the player and the parents value that, but the coach prioritizes playing ability and results on the field first and foremost. A coach who delivers losing seasons year after year isn't going to remain employed, regardless of the team GPA.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Once again, someone who doesn't understand college soccer and college soccer coaches. A coach and an AD care about results on the field first. Once that is achieved, then grades are important. Of course a coach is going to talk to recruits about grades and achievements in the classroom because the player and the parents value that, but the coach prioritizes playing ability and results on the field first and foremost. A coach who delivers losing seasons year after year isn't going to remain employed, regardless of the team GPA.
            Finally someone that knows how it truly works.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Truth. Grades and team gpa are important. Even for recruiting purposes. Smarter is better in school, in soccer & in life. The high gpa recruits enable coaches to recruit some of the dumb ones and still keep their team average from going too low.
              This is how it works. The same poster is obsessed with one particular team because their dd wasn't good enough nor smart enough to get recruited to play PAC12 ball.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Finally someone that knows how it truly works.
                Yes. It's so funny how all of these people think that GPA is a recruiting tool. They don't realize that the education part is only important to the parents and the recruit, the coach and AD don't care. They want wins and no issues surrounding the players on the team.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is how it works. The same poster is obsessed with one particular team because their dd wasn't good enough nor smart enough to get recruited to play PAC12 ball.
                  It's not hard to get admitted to Utah, ASU, Arizona, Oregon, OSU WASH State.

                  WCC schools have higher SAT and GPA's than the above.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Once again, someone who doesn't understand college soccer and college soccer coaches. A coach and an AD care about results on the field first. Once that is achieved, then grades are important. Of course a coach is going to talk to recruits about grades and achievements in the classroom because the player and the parents value that, but the coach prioritizes playing ability and results on the field first and foremost. A coach who delivers losing seasons year after year isn't going to remain employed, regardless of the team GPA.
                    This is mostly true. Coaches care a lot about whether grades are going to be an issue eligibility wise. A great, but ineligible player, is useless. A great, but on the edge (grade wise) player is a distraction. Both are problems and because of the limited number of scholarships and money, coaches do care about grades, but mostly because it impacts on-field success. The difference between a 3.0 and a 3.5 is a nice talking point, but not critical.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This is mostly true. Coaches care a lot about whether grades are going to be an issue eligibility wise. A great, but ineligible player, is useless. A great, but on the edge (grade wise) player is a distraction. Both are problems and because of the limited number of scholarships and money, coaches do care about grades, but mostly because it impacts on-field success. The difference between a 3.0 and a 3.5 is a nice talking point, but not critical.
                      It's so easy to get straight As in Oregon public schools that most of our players have 4.0s or above. Being qualified for admissions won't be a problem for all but the dumbest. What will set them apart is test scores and soccer abilities. The only elite academic school in Oregon is Reed and they don't have any sports. Many Cal schools have higher admission requirements but there are plenty that have soccer teams and low academic standards. If a girl wants to play college soccer there is a place for her.

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                        A point is being missed. Many PAC-12 players are out of state, and with only 14 scholarships to divide , a kid who can get some academic coin is a help on the equivalency, depending on the PAC-12 school Those kids have to keep a 3.0, 3.2 or even higher. They lose their academic and they might transfer closer to home. In the case of private schools the academic is harder to keep and needed by most everyone.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          A point is being missed. Many PAC-12 players are out of state, and with only 14 scholarships to divide , a kid who can get some academic coin is a help on the equivalency, depending on the PAC-12 school Those kids have to keep a 3.0, 3.2 or even higher. They lose their academic and they might transfer closer to home. In the case of private schools the academic is harder to keep and needed by most everyone.
                          No one is missing this. It's just you who is thinking that people are missing this. And this really has nothing to do with the discussion about team grades.

                          A coach only cares about team grades when recruiting. A Pac 12 championship with a team GPA of 2.85 is much better to the coach than a last place finish and a team GPA of 3.44. And if a team is tweeting out or instagramming out that the team GPA is 3.44, that's the schools sports information department doing that, not the coach. Pac 12 teams have academic advisers associated with them and it is their job to make sure the academics of the team meet the requirements for eligibility. It is not the coaches job, however if there are issues with the academics, you can bet that the coach is having a stern discussion with the adviser about the situation.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            A point is being missed. Many PAC-12 players are out of state, and with only 14 scholarships to divide , a kid who can get some academic coin is a help on the equivalency, depending on the PAC-12 school Those kids have to keep a 3.0, 3.2 or even higher. They lose their academic and they might transfer closer to home. In the case of private schools the academic is harder to keep and needed by most everyone.
                            Everyone agrees and knows this except the poster that posts constantly on this thread to bash on the UofO coach. Some kind of weird personal vendetta or bitterness fueled we think by his dd not getting recruited by said coach. His bitterness runs so deep he wants to even bash the UofO team for having a high gpa. Possibly add that his dd has a low gpa so he wants to convince everyone that PAC12 coaches don't care if the team has piss poor grades.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              No one is missing this. It's just you who is thinking that people are missing this. And this really has nothing to do with the discussion about team grades.

                              A coach only cares about team grades when recruiting. A Pac 12 championship with a team GPA of 2.85 is much better to the coach than a last place finish and a team GPA of 3.44. And if a team is tweeting out or instagramming out that the team GPA is 3.44, that's the schools sports information department doing that, not the coach. Pac 12 teams have academic advisers associated with them and it is their job to make sure the academics of the team meet the requirements for eligibility. It is not the coaches job, however if there are issues with the academics, you can bet that the coach is having a stern discussion with the adviser about the situation.
                              Actually you are wrong, the discussion started as whether college coaches care about GPA or not.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It's so easy to get straight As in Oregon public schools that most of our players have 4.0s or above. Being qualified for admissions won't be a problem for all but the dumbest. What will set them apart is test scores and soccer abilities. The only elite academic school in Oregon is Reed and they don't have any sports. Many Cal schools have higher admission requirements but there are plenty that have soccer teams and low academic standards. If a girl wants to play college soccer there is a place for her.
                                No one would bash oregon soccer if they had winning record. They don't.
                                So for those Oregon parents: either your players aren't up to par or it's the coach. Which is it then?

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