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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo we are relying on a "study" conducted by an organization that stands to benefit financially from kids playing? I mean, there's nothing wrong with them commissioning a study but there's no details to make this seem authoritative
Although it would be nice to have a more detailed description of the methodology (frequency of testing, etc), the study provides a pretty a good argument for turning the dial a bit further for soccer and other outdoor sports, allowing full training and games (with masks for coaches and players when not in and social distancing on sideline). (I do think their math is off; they divide the two non-soccer cases by total training sessions to get to a .001 risk of transmission per session. If that was the relevant math I wouldn’t find it so comforting — with 20 sessions a month you’d get to a significant risk of kids getting sick pretty quick. The more relevant figures are that 0/6500 kids got Covid from soccer over a month of training, and the 15/6500 (.002%) who got Covid from outside soccer but didn’t transmit the disease to anyone else during soccer).
But the key is consistent system checks, survey testing, and isolation and contact tracing for anyone who tests positive so that you can dial it back if it seems like any problem is starting to crop up.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt’s notoriously difficult to prove a negative. There is no evidence of outdoor transmission in youth sports anywhere. This study says hey, we’ve had 6700 players and coaches participate in 140,000 training sessions over the past month. Only fifteen of the participants (unclear whether coaches or players) had Covid, and they got it from something other than soccer.
Although it would be nice to have a more detailed description of the methodology (frequency of testing, etc), the study provides a pretty a good argument for turning the dial a bit further for soccer and other outdoor sports, allowing full training and games (with masks for coaches and players when not in and social distancing on sideline). (I do think their math is off; they divide the two non-soccer cases by total training sessions to get to a .001 risk of transmission per session. If that was the relevant math I wouldn’t find it so comforting — with 20 sessions a month you’d get to a significant risk of kids getting sick pretty quick. The more relevant figures are that 0/6500 kids got Covid from soccer over a month of training, and the 15/6500 (.002%) who got Covid from outside soccer but didn’t transmit the disease to anyone else during soccer).
But the key is consistent system checks, survey testing, and isolation and contact tracing for anyone who tests positive so that you can dial it back if it seems like any problem is starting to crop up.
Right. Big political gain opening up an non-revenue sport like soccer for mostly rich, white kids while big revenue sport like college football is DOA this season. Definitely a rayycist plot.
Truly magical thinking. You must be a wizard, Harry. Contact tracing and widespread testing while we can't get many people to keep social distancing or to wear masks. Try door number two next time, pal.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post"Look, Daddy. Teacher says, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings."
Right. Big political gain opening up an non-revenue sport like soccer for mostly rich, white kids while big revenue sport like college football is DOA this season. Definitely a rayycist plot.
Truly magical thinking. You must be a wizard, Harry. Contact tracing and widespread testing while we can't get many people to keep social distancing or to wear masks. Try door number two next time, pal.
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The mask and face shield is not enough. You can get goggles at the local swim supply shop. Be are to get the straps extra tight..
I have been wearing goggles for a month now with the face shield and I find it keeps me extra alert when driving as a bonus. And I feel more safe. Warning: It is really important to treat your face shield so that it doesn't fog up on cold mornings which are coming up in Nov, Dec, Jan.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGoggles
mask
face shields
Long sleeves
Long pants
Rubber bands on wrists and ankles
24/7 geared up, even in your home
Stay home
This is not difficult people.
Stay home and wear goggles, face shield and mask.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGoggles
mask
face shields
Long sleeves
Long pants
Rubber bands on wrists and ankles
24/7 geared up, even in your home
Stay home
This is not difficult people.
Get used to it. This is the new normal for a long, long time. After a couple years people won't even remember what it was like to be in public without full protection.
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