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2013 total HS attendance 14.7 million with a 35%+ dropout rate resulting in a senior class of approximately 2.39 million graduates with 6,500 getting into Harrrrvard or .27%.
314 D1 schools awarding on average 3.5 girls scholarships annually = 1,099.
223 D2 schools with women's soccer awarding on average 2.5 scholarships annually =557
HS girls Soccer participation including all divisions is 345,000 which would result in a Senior Class of 32,035 because the gross pool is inflated buy 3 years of JV teams and a 35% drop out rate.
It is my understanding that those D1 & 2 scholarships are typically divided by .5 over the life of the athlete therefore there are actually on average 3,313 scholarship offers available which translates to a gross availability of 10.34% or FORTY TWO TIMES greater than Harrrrvard for the entire graduating class.
Now lets adjust the qualifications for each group to recognize there are minimum qualifications that need to be met, Taking the top 2% of Seniors as being eligible to apply to Harrravrd and you get 47,800. If 6,500 are admitted you get a 13.6 % acceptance rate for the QUALIUFIED students.
Adjusting the qualifications for the 32,035 pool of Senior female soccer players I think it would be fair to say that at best 33% want to or have the requisite physical qualifications when you look out over all divisions and account for rural vs. urban soccer. Therefore ,you have 10,571 qualified players vying for 3,313 scholarships which results in an acceptance rate of 31.34%.
So for the QUALIFIED in each group you are more than twice as likely to get that soccer scholarship than you are to get "into" Harrrvard!
Now trying to make an apples to apples comparison the top 10 girl soccer programs in each division have on average 60 openings each year. To have the same odds of getting on one of those teams you have for getting into Harrrvard you have to be in the top 143 of Senior players nation wide. On a population basis that would translate 1.4 players per year from Oregon and is about what we have experienced over the past decade excluding the U of P program.
Without dismissing the value of getting "into" Harrrvard the comparison is economically invalid. Currently 60% of all Harvard students get aid in varying amounts so if you were trying to determine the economic value of either choice you would need to exclude 40% of the Harvard acceptances who are paying the full COA of $65,000 for the 2013/14 year. If we assume the same 50% scholarship value for the other 60% receiving aid it reduces the comparison figure to 8.16% of qualified applicants receiving money to attend college.
So when looking at just what the odds are of getting money to attend college if you're a girl in the top 1/3 of soccer skills in your age group you have nearly FOUR TIMES the likelihood of getting scholastic aid via soccer than a person in the academic top 2% of getting into and money to attend just Harrrvard.
Of course when you factor in all of the academic scholarships available to attend the top 20 colleges nationwide as we have aded together all the soccer scholarships the number likely exceeds exceeds 45,000 meaning that if your DD is in the top 2% of her class there is a scholarship waiting!
However,if she is not in that top 2% academically but in that top 1/3 of her soccer class she should not despair.
314 D1 schools awarding on average 3.5 girls scholarships annually = 1,099.
223 D2 schools with women's soccer awarding on average 2.5 scholarships annually =557
HS girls Soccer participation including all divisions is 345,000 which would result in a Senior Class of 32,035 because the gross pool is inflated buy 3 years of JV teams and a 35% drop out rate.
It is my understanding that those D1 & 2 scholarships are typically divided by .5 over the life of the athlete therefore there are actually on average 3,313 scholarship offers available which translates to a gross availability of 10.34% or FORTY TWO TIMES greater than Harrrrvard for the entire graduating class.
Now lets adjust the qualifications for each group to recognize there are minimum qualifications that need to be met, Taking the top 2% of Seniors as being eligible to apply to Harrravrd and you get 47,800. If 6,500 are admitted you get a 13.6 % acceptance rate for the QUALIUFIED students.
Adjusting the qualifications for the 32,035 pool of Senior female soccer players I think it would be fair to say that at best 33% want to or have the requisite physical qualifications when you look out over all divisions and account for rural vs. urban soccer. Therefore ,you have 10,571 qualified players vying for 3,313 scholarships which results in an acceptance rate of 31.34%.
So for the QUALIFIED in each group you are more than twice as likely to get that soccer scholarship than you are to get "into" Harrrvard!
Now trying to make an apples to apples comparison the top 10 girl soccer programs in each division have on average 60 openings each year. To have the same odds of getting on one of those teams you have for getting into Harrrvard you have to be in the top 143 of Senior players nation wide. On a population basis that would translate 1.4 players per year from Oregon and is about what we have experienced over the past decade excluding the U of P program.
Without dismissing the value of getting "into" Harrrvard the comparison is economically invalid. Currently 60% of all Harvard students get aid in varying amounts so if you were trying to determine the economic value of either choice you would need to exclude 40% of the Harvard acceptances who are paying the full COA of $65,000 for the 2013/14 year. If we assume the same 50% scholarship value for the other 60% receiving aid it reduces the comparison figure to 8.16% of qualified applicants receiving money to attend college.
So when looking at just what the odds are of getting money to attend college if you're a girl in the top 1/3 of soccer skills in your age group you have nearly FOUR TIMES the likelihood of getting scholastic aid via soccer than a person in the academic top 2% of getting into and money to attend just Harrrvard.
Of course when you factor in all of the academic scholarships available to attend the top 20 colleges nationwide as we have aded together all the soccer scholarships the number likely exceeds exceeds 45,000 meaning that if your DD is in the top 2% of her class there is a scholarship waiting!
However,if she is not in that top 2% academically but in that top 1/3 of her soccer class she should not despair.
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