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What are your daughter's goals? For the most part these ECNL teams are stocked with players that will more than likely wind up with D1 scholarship offers, especially at the older age groups. You can be a second teamer and still be surrounded by really good players and coaches. They seem to do very well.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat are your daughter's goals? For the most part these ECNL teams are stocked with players that will more than likely wind up with D1 scholarship offers, especially at the older age groups. You can be a second teamer and still be surrounded by really good players and coaches. They seem to do very well.
If your child makes it to a D1 school it has allot to do with their other things. Grades, SAT scores, alumni, etc... you wind bags keep saying ECNL = D1 but reality is the kids would of gone there anyway.
The original Propoganda was ECNL would equal better US National players. While they have recruited several of the existing US National players it has yet to develop it's own prodigy.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat are your daughter's goals? For the most part these ECNL teams are stocked with players that will more than likely wind up with D1 scholarship offers, especially at the older age groups. You can be a second teamer and still be surrounded by really good players and coaches. They seem to do very well.
If you think that simply playing in a "special" league will get your child a scholarship, you get what you deserve.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFor the most part these ECNL teams are stocked with players that will more than likely wind up with D1 scholarship offers.
D1 Scholarship offers ? No. They are few and far between. Loans, financial aid packages etc -yes.
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It's funny that so many people are willing to debate this topic when so few (percentage-wise) actually make the ECNL rosters. Either that or it's the same people going round and round in this fight.
If your child is destined for greatness in soccer (meaning she has the talent, drive, and love of the game), and you are supporting her efforts, giving her the opportunities she needs to excel, ECNL or no ECNL, she will be successful.
If she is not successful in soccer it wasn't meant to be. 26 spots exist for ECNL in each age group for Stars and Scorpions. Highly unlikely that more than a handful are even open at tryouts as the rosters don't change that much.
Investing in ECNL is not always a best-case ROI scenario, but it can be. Your daughter has to be there for the love of the game, the level of competition, and a true interest in seeing what the rest of the soccer world looks like in this country. It may or may not be the best investment for some. Which is why, in my book, the clubs that offer excellent coaching at both their ECNL AND second team levels, are the ones people should be flocking to.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCompletely false statement for any team under U16.
If you think that simply playing in a "special" league will get your child a scholarship, you get what you deserve.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI don't think that but the strength of some of those Stars teams suggest that it's been one heck of a draw whether you agree with it or not, and whether you like it or not, and note that the statement was qualified with (especially at older age groups).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthere really isn't any clear cut "best" way to go about things any longer. Now it is all about finding the right fit and that is completely subjective.
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Agreed. Same with DAP. There are tons of teams equal or better playing Maple, Super Y, NEP, or egads, town soccer. Find a fit, and if your child is good enough, the coaches will find them.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgreed. Same with DAP. There are tons of teams equal or better playing Maple, Super Y, NEP, or egads, town soccer. Find a fit, and if your child is good enough, the coaches will find them.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDon't know how "tons of teams" could possibly be "equal or better" to teams in any very selective league--unless Mass. is the Lake Wobegon of youth soccer, where the vast majority of teams are above average. Of course, you weren't really agreeing with the previous poster.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's funny that so many people are willing to debate this topic when so few (percentage-wise) actually make the ECNL rosters. Either that or it's the same people going round and round in this fight.
If your child is destined for greatness in soccer (meaning she has the talent, drive, and love of the game), and you are supporting her efforts, giving her the opportunities she needs to excel, ECNL or no ECNL, she will be successful.
If she is not successful in soccer it wasn't meant to be. 26 spots exist for ECNL in each age group for Stars and Scorpions. Highly unlikely that more than a handful are even open at tryouts as the rosters don't change that much.
Investing in ECNL is not always a best-case ROI scenario, but it can be. Your daughter has to be there for the love of the game, the level of competition, and a true interest in seeing what the rest of the soccer world looks like in this country. It may or may not be the best investment for some. Which is why, in my book, the clubs that offer excellent coaching at both their ECNL AND second team levels, are the ones people should be flocking to.
NEFC, MPS and AZTEC are all far, far better than any number two team at Stars. And each of these clubs top teams get you to the big world of soccer in this country going to Vegas, Disney, PDA, Jefferson, etc.
ECNL rosers at Scorpions do not change much and most of the minimal change is attrition of players that tire of the focus.
ECNL rosters at Stars is a virtual revolving door. Top team at Stars has typically over the years U14 to U18 turned over 50% of the team. The sole exception is the current U19 team which was really the first Stars big time team.
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this is great in theory, but very difficult to accomplish. there are typically only a few players even close to ready to make the jump to the A team, and if the a team carries a full roster, these players are unlikely to be moved up anyway.
the only situation where i see this sort of work is when geography is the factor that keeps a player on a b squad. players train with their area stars west, scorps west or nefc regional team, and move to the a team for games. Quote
I disagree that there is that much disparity in talent in every case which is why destination club Second teams should be marketed as a separate path (region1,etc) versus a significantly inferior path. Otherwise talented players (and there are some despite the B team status) will defect to nonECNL clubs simply because they can play on those clubs A teams immediately. (NEFC etc). Stars does a good job of keeping a few (but not all B teams competitive and provides them with the incentive to stay where they are despite the fact that they may never be called up. Scorpions, not do much. It would be interesting to hear how other states top contenders (PDA) handle their B teams. In order to truly grow a club you have to consistently produce top teams at every level so that each dominates their respective competitive venue and so that the negative connotation associated with being on the B team in these clubs is nearly nonexistent. This means college recruiting, coaching, etc are proven at these levels as well. When was the last time Stars or Scorpions or any of the top 3 for that matter put their second team names on the college commitment list. If the answer is never---that is sad, because there are likely a few in the ranks who have the talent to be there but are overlooked because of team label OR because the club is so caught up in the ECNL propaganda that they don't feel it necessary to highlight the achievements of those who do not play ECNL. Not every ECNL kid will get into D1 or D2 colleges and conversely not every B teamer will be denied the opportunity despite the team label.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTotal crap. Blatant lies. Please do not believe this marketing hype.
NEFC, MPS and AZTEC are all far, far better than any number two team at Stars. And each of these clubs top teams get you to the big world of soccer in this country going to Vegas, Disney, PDA, Jefferson, etc.
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