New Discovery! TA coaches overly paranoid that his best players are leaving for ECNL

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Well, it is Thuscs / CU's 'home turf'.

That right there should tell you about the quality of that program. Powerlines Pasture complex. They let the grass grow so you don't notice how uneven the surface is.

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People always ragging on Eastside. Even so, they have an excellent record of players that began their youth competitive soccer at EST and didn't move until high school going on to play collegiate soccer. Why do people care where other people's kids play soccer?

Begs the question though doesn't it, "Why did they have to leave Eastside at the HS ages?" Same question is asked at 90%+ of the clubs in Oregon/SWWA. Why do all the kids leave for a couple of clubs in Portland? Maybe, just maybe, the answer to that question isn't "Those clubs do nothing but recruit". Maybe, just maybe, there isn't enough development at 90% of the clubs and that forces kids to leave...

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That right there should tell you about the quality of that program. Powerlines Pasture complex. They let the grass grow so you don't notice how uneven the surface is.

At least it's a real soccer surface, unlike the green painted parking lot at Gresham HS.

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At least it's a real soccer surface, unlike the green painted parking lot at Gresham HS.

Funny how you can't accept facts and have to make up lies. At lease Gresham has turf. It's miles better than the pasture that Thusc maintains.

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Funny how you can't accept facts and have to make up lies. At lease Gresham has turf. It's miles better than the pasture that Thusc maintains.

You call that "turf"? It might have been "turf" 20 years ago when it was first laid down. But it's so threadbare now that it's no different than playing on a "green painted parking lot". Follow the bouncing ball, kids...

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You call that "turf"? It might have been "turf" 20 years ago when it was first laid down. But it's so threadbare now that it's no different than playing on a "green painted parking lot". Follow the bouncing ball, kids...

You're too used to that two foot long pasture grass at Powerlines.

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Begs the question though doesn't it, "Why did they have to leave Eastside at the HS ages?" Same question is asked at 90%+ of the clubs in Oregon/SWWA. Why do all the kids leave for a couple of clubs in Portland? Maybe, just maybe, the answer to that question isn't "Those clubs do nothing but recruit". Maybe, just maybe, there isn't enough development at 90% of the clubs and that forces kids to leave...

Nothing to do with development, its about opportunity and exposure. Many of the girls on the elite teams were developed at clubs close to were they live. These other clubs are no better at development, they just have the opportunities that the higher level players are looking for.

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Nothing to do with development, its about opportunity and exposure. Many of the girls on the elite teams were developed at clubs close to were they live. These other clubs are no better at development, they just have the opportunities that the higher level players are looking for.

So you think they went to the ECNL clubs already "fully developed"? You might want to think about that. I most cases, those girls coming in at U14/15 had to be seriously retrained to break them of some very bad bootball habits (much like the USWNT needs right now).

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Nothing to do with development, its about opportunity and exposure. Many of the girls on the elite teams were developed at clubs close to were they live. These other clubs are no better at development, they just have the opportunities that the higher level players are looking for.

Agreed. From our perspective there can only be one and maybe two truly competitive teams per age group at the older ages. As such you see a lot of the HS age girls moving to one of these teams. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with development and has much more to do with recruitment and how well a DOC is able to persuade higher level players to His / Her team...

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So you think they went to the ECNL clubs already "fully developed"? You might want to think about that. I most cases, those girls coming in at U14/15 had to be seriously retrained to break them of some very bad bootball habits (much like the USWNT needs right now).

Absolute Bull****. That being the case why has a certain DOC gone way out of their way to recruit these players???

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Agreed. From our perspective there can only be one and maybe two truly competitive teams per age group at the older ages. As such you see a lot of the HS age girls moving to one of these teams. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with development and has much more to do with recruitment and how well a DOC is able to persuade higher level players to His / Her team...

Most of it has to do with the fact that some clubs don't have H.S. aged teams, so girls are just that much better and are looking for a challenge or some teams don't have quality at the 'B' level to draw from, so you get a couple of girls decide just to play H.S. and not club and poof, the other couple of quality players look for options. This has been happening for decades.

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Most of it has to do with the fact that some clubs don't have H.S. aged teams, so girls are just that much better and are looking for a challenge or some teams don't have quality at the 'B' level to draw from, so you get a couple of girls decide just to play H.S. and not club and poof, the other couple of quality players look for options. This has been happening for decades.

The reality is that at the HS age there are not as many talented players to choose from and it becomes more noticeable at the older ages. The B team isn't going to do squat to provide players at that level. For my most competitive girl we felt that Crossfire out of Redmond had much more to offer than ANY Oregon team. If Oregon could consolidate talent at the older ages that would be great.. but they can't do that and still provide salaries for multiple docs at clubs all over the place. The dilution of talent sucks

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The reality is that at the HS age there are not as many talented players to choose from and it becomes more noticeable at the older ages. The B team isn't going to do squat to provide players at that level. For my most competitive girl we felt that Crossfire out of Redmond had much more to offer than ANY Oregon team. If Oregon could consolidate talent at the older ages that would be great.. but they can't do that and still provide salaries for multiple docs at clubs all over the place. The dilution of talent sucks

Oregon actually had a Girls U18 advance to the USYS Far West Regional Finals in Jordan Utah. Nearly every top player in local market was on this team.

Nearly 20 years later Oregon can't get the best girls to play on one team and represent improving their exposore to coaches, earning their way to top flight competitions and developing the skilss needed to play at a higher level.

What's different from 20 years ago? Back then clubs didn't have to keep their best kids from the cradle to the grave at their home club just to pay the coaching fees. Today they do. Terrible symptom of today's club landscape for Girls.

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Oregon actually had a Girls U18 advance to the USYS Far West Regional Finals in Jordan Utah. Nearly every top player in local market was on this team.

Nearly 20 years later Oregon can't get the best girls to play on one team and represent improving their exposore to coaches, earning their way to top flight competitions and developing the skilss needed to play at a higher level.

What's different from 20 years ago? Back then clubs didn't have to keep their best kids from the cradle to the grave at their home club just to pay the coaching fees. Today they do. Terrible symptom of today's club landscape for Girls.

There have actually been teams as recent as a couple years ago who made it to the semi-finals.

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There have actually been teams as recent as a couple years ago who made it to the semi-finals.

Love to know what club teams from Oregon aged u16/u17/u18 in the last 5-10 years have advanced past the semi-finals at USYS Far West Regionals.

Please post:
list the year it happened, the age group, the location of regionals and if you can remember how much better was this team than rest of the teams in Oregon in their age group.

Trying to pinpoint when this dilution started.