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    #31
    How old is MK?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

      And a response to other poster BSC repuation is at all time low why sell but you should also note its also at all time high with respect liquid assets. If a deal is signed off it could be a win-win. Something to think about before you to try to debunk. Don't get me wrong MK is going nowhere but cashing out in reinventing himself in a tough market is a legitimate strategy. This happens all the time in many service industries. People sell/cash out the better-positioned company in a hostile market and bunker down. Ride out the storm and sit sidelines until the noncompete clause ends and then reenter the industry. Happens all the time, the company makes a tactical mistake in hostile market short-term exit plan could be a long-term genius move.

      The trick is separating the BSC cash from the older DA badges.
      If MK sells out and/or doesn't build the facility families will rightly demand their donations back. In theory if DA expands as rumored BS would still be fine because they'd have to add a lot more clubs to make the travel manageable. But then it also makes non MLS DA more like high level premier, so why spend the $ and give up HS if you're not playing against MLS teams?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        If MK sells out and/or doesn't build the facility families will rightly demand their donations back. In theory if DA expands as rumored BS would still be fine because they'd have to add a lot more clubs to make the travel manageable. But then it also makes non MLS DA more like high level premier, so why spend the $ and give up HS if you're not playing against MLS teams?
        Which teams in CT would qualify for DA expansion? DA expansion is not in the cards in the northeast, perhaps yes in western states, etc.

        The suggested merger makes sense. Options for facilities are nonexistent. NYCFC will continue poaching the stars. Leader of club is aging out and losing mojo. Totally can see a merger/eventual buyout happening.

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          #34
          This sounds like a mess. First affiliation with NYCFC was terminated due to BS losing its best players. Now a merger with NYSC would mean what? Top players leave to NYSC would put BSC in same position as before.

          Most importantly, what does any of this have to do with the better development of youth players? Absolutely nothing. All about $ and prestige in this industry, nothing to do with developing better players and the passion for soccer.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Which teams in CT would qualify for DA expansion? DA expansion is not in the cards in the northeast, perhaps yes in western states, etc.

            The suggested merger makes sense. Options for facilities are nonexistent. NYCFC will continue poaching the stars. Leader of club is aging out and losing mojo. Totally can see a merger/eventual buyout happening.
            A merger only makes sense if it's a two branch club - say an East (CT) and West (NY) branch. A few players in lower FC and Eastern NY already come up to BS and some CT families go to NY. But further a field fewer BS CT players would go that far and vice versa. I think if DA expands USSF needs both clubs for tier 2. But if it doesn't both clubs will struggle. Either way they'll both always lose top players to MLS clubs.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              This sounds like a mess. First affiliation with NYCFC was terminated due to BS losing its best players. Now a merger with NYSC would mean what? Top players leave to NYSC would put BSC in same position as before.

              Most importantly, what does any of this have to do with the better development of youth players? Absolutely nothing. All about $ and prestige in this industry, nothing to do with developing better players and the passion for soccer.
              Your last paragraph has more to do with the power grab USSF is on, not about bettering soccer. The clubs and players are the ones caught up in the mess. If they chose to expand DA and make 1-2 more tiers it's more proof it's about controlling the market. To make it work they have to add more clubs, further diluting the quality of competition. Then they are just like many other clubs out there, they don't play MLS teams and families would still be paying top $ and no HS. Personally I think it's foolish. If anything there should be fewer clubs to improve the quality, but I guess I care about the soccer

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                #37
                This is a meaningless merge, the older elite players at NYSC still won’t go to Beachside.
                Beachside as somehow convinced NYSC to funnel their older boys to BSC and In turn BSC will funnel their girls to the NYSC DA. Suppose to be win win but NYSC doesn’t need BSC for anything. The BSC girls program sucks NYSC girls program is mediocre so no uptick in that.
                NYSC boys fair and good training. BSC DA failing rapidly.

                I doubt very much NYSC started this conversation to deal. NYSC would have done much better teaming up or selling out to World Class.
                A World Class/NYSC would be a perfect team to take FCWs DA.

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                  #38
                  Absolutely nothing about this on the NY page.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Absolutely nothing about this on the NY page.
                    The NY site leans heavily towards Long Island. They don't have much Westchester chatter

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This is a meaningless merge, the older elite players at NYSC still won’t go to Beachside.
                      Beachside as somehow convinced NYSC to funnel their older boys to BSC and In turn BSC will funnel their girls to the NYSC DA. Suppose to be win win but NYSC doesn’t need BSC for anything. The BSC girls program sucks NYSC girls program is mediocre so no uptick in that.
                      NYSC boys fair and good training. BSC DA failing rapidly.

                      I doubt very much NYSC started this conversation to deal. NYSC would have done much better teaming up or selling out to World Class.
                      A World Class/NYSC would be a perfect team to take FCWs DA.
                      NYSC boys has been doing fine - outperforming Beachside, FCW and World Class . The Girls also doing well so if this is true something else is involved to get them on board.
                      I gotta say at every last minute MK seems to always pull a Rabbit outta of a hat.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The NY site leans heavily towards Long Island. They don't have much Westchester chatter
                        There was a thread about NYSC new fields/training facilities & possible USSF mandate merger with FCW to clear up NY DA landscape.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          There was a thread about NYSC new fields/training facilities & possible USSF mandate merger with FCW to clear up NY DA landscape.
                          Yeah I know. I posted it

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Yeah I know. I posted it

                            New York Soccer Club Announces Construction of Outdoor and Indoor Home Facility in Westchester, NY at Manhattanville College

                            October 27, 2017

                            New York Soccer Club ("NYSC") today announced the construction of its home facility ("Ophir Field") in central Westchester, NY, in partnership with Manhattanville College. The facility has received full town planning board approval, is fully financed, and construction completion is targeted for early 2018. The partnership encompasses two professional outdoor turf fields and a seasonal 90,000 sq. ft. winter indoor enclosure including large turf training spaces, fitness training areas and multiple professional futsal courts. This significant investment, and long term partnership with Manhattanville College, creates the premier soccer training and match facility in the region. The facility enables NYSC to have a true home for matches and club activities, and allows for consistent training schedules.

                            The New York Soccer Club facility, at Manhattanville College, is conveniently located at the nexus of I287, I684, I95, and the Hutchinson River Parkway, and is 2 miles from Connecticut.

                            For more information on NYSC and its teams and programs please go to www.newyorksoccerclub.org.

                            The indoor facility will be located on Ophir Field at Manhattanville College and will be a seasonal enclosure. The NYSC facility and Ophir Field are being developed by Ophir Field LLC, a facility development entity, in partnership with NYSC and Manhattanville College.

                            About New York Soccer Club:
                            NYSC (www.newyorksoccerclub.org) has over 1,000 members and is the only boys and girls USSDA member in the greater Westchester market. NYSC is the Major League Soccer ("MLS") professional affiliate of NYCFC on the boys side and is the National Woman's Soccer League ("NWSL") professional affiliate of Sky Blue FC on the girls side.

                            About Manhattanville College:
                            Manhattanville College (www.mville.edu) is an independent, co-educational liberal arts institution dedicated to academic excellence and social and civic action. Manhattanville prepares students to be ethical and socially responsible leaders in a global community. Located just 30 minutes from New York City, Manhattanville serves 1,800 undergraduate students and over 1,000 graduate students from more than 50 countries and 40 states. Founded in 1841, the College offers more than 90 undergraduate and graduate areas of study in the arts and sciences, education, business, creative writing, as well as continuing and executive education programs.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This is a meaningless merge, the older elite players at NYSC still won’t go to Beachside.
                              Beachside as somehow convinced NYSC to funnel their older boys to BSC and In turn BSC will funnel their girls to the NYSC DA. Suppose to be win win but NYSC doesn’t need BSC for anything. The BSC girls program sucks NYSC girls program is mediocre so no uptick in that.
                              NYSC boys fair and good training. BSC DA failing rapidly.

                              I doubt very much NYSC started this conversation to deal. NYSC would have done much better teaming up or selling out to World Class.
                              A World Class/NYSC would be a perfect team to take FCWs DA.
                              This potential deal would be driven by boys DA. Currently NYSC has boys DA up to u15 (2003)(which expansion from u 14 was given to them last year for this year when they only had up to u14 and were one of only 10 clubs to get it) and this year has full girls DA. In addition NYSC is building a 2nd turf field at Manhattanville (both covered in the winter under a bubble) which should be finished later this month.

                              Last year the announcements for changes to the DA (expansion) were announced in late January/February. NYSC has been very focused on getting full DA for the boys program. NYSC has had nine US national team players since its founding in 2009 ( most of them in the last 2-3 years).

                              Any potential deal would seem to be Beachside merging into, being acquired by, or (most likely being affiliated with NYSC. NYSC has the facilities, the pedigree (with having produced 9 national team players and one coach recently being appointed as a national team cosch) and the teams to support it.

                              Beachside has not been helped by its USDA U 18/19 team losing 10-1 and then 7-0 to Montreal this fall.

                              Were Beachside to be told in advance of the public announcement that it was going to lose some of it’s DA teams it would makes sense to announce some sort of deal with NYSC (merger/ affiliation) to put the best face on it.

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                                #45
                                Tyler shaver developed at NYSC.

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