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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTypical Trumpster #alternativefacts. First the reason more are adults now is because efforts by Obama to fix the problem were stalled multiple times by the GOP. He started trying to resolve the issue in 2011-12. Current DACA recipients had to register awhile ago, and have to pass background checks, have a HS degree or GED or be enrolled in HS. Taking 800,000 mostly working/tax paying adults out of the workforce will have a huge economic impact and in an already tight job market.
"The 800,000 people using DACA help to fill the hole. More than 75% of them are employed, and their average wage is over $17 an hour, according to the National Immigration Law Center, a left-leaning group. Their median age is 22, meaning most are prime for careers, jobs and incomes for the foreseeable future.
DACA permit holders are a part of the formal job market, meaning they pay local, state and federal taxes when they get pay checks, instead of being paid under the table. They must pass criminal background checks and pay application fees to apply. "
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/05/news...omy/index.html
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTrump's fan base hates facts. It ruis their fictional narrative
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTrump's fan base hates facts. It ruis their fictional narrative
"Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself." In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case." In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. ... That's not how a democracy works."
Yet in 2012, he did it anyway. He put DACA in place to provide pseudo-legal status to illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as minors, including as teenagers. He promised them that they wouldn't be deported and provided them with work authorizations and access to Social Security and other government benefits.
And he did this despite the fact that the immigration laws passed by Congress do not give the president the ability to do this. Indeed, Congress specifically rejected bills to provide such benefits.
As Attorney General Jeff Sessions pointed out this week, DACA "contributed to a surge of unaccompanied minors on the southern border that yielded terrible humanitarian consequences." Since most DACA beneficiaries are now adults, "it also denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans by allowing those same jobs to go to illegal aliens," Sessions said.
The unconstitutionality of Obama's actions were confirmed when Obama tried to implement a second, similar program in 2014 called the Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents program, or DAPA. Like DACA, DAPA provided an administrative amnesty for illegal aliens who came to the U.S. as adults and gave them work authorizations and access to government benefits.
The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a nationwide injunction against DAPA, which the Supreme Court allowed to stand. As the Fifth Circuit said, the fact that the president declined to enforce the law and remove illegal aliens "does not transform presence deemed unlawful by Congress into lawful presence and confer eligibility for otherwise unavailable benefits based on that change."
Under our Constitution, Congress has plenary authority over immigration. The president only has the authority delegated to him by Congress – and Congress has never given the president the power to provide a pseudo-amnesty and government benefits to illegal aliens.
The DACA program suffers from exactly the same constitutional infirmities as DAPA. A number of states have threatened to sue the administration to stop the DACA program. In the face of that threat, Trump really had no choice. General Sessions' legal conclusion was that DACA "is vulnerable to the same legal and constitutional challenges that the courts recognized with respect to the DAPA program."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSome "facts" to consider...
"Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself." In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case." In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. ... That's not how a democracy works."
Yet in 2012, he did it anyway. He put DACA in place to provide pseudo-legal status to illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as minors, including as teenagers. He promised them that they wouldn't be deported and provided them with work authorizations and access to Social Security and other government benefits.
And he did this despite the fact that the immigration laws passed by Congress do not give the president the ability to do this. Indeed, Congress specifically rejected bills to provide such benefits.
As Attorney General Jeff Sessions pointed out this week, DACA "contributed to a surge of unaccompanied minors on the southern border that yielded terrible humanitarian consequences." Since most DACA beneficiaries are now adults, "it also denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans by allowing those same jobs to go to illegal aliens," Sessions said.
The unconstitutionality of Obama's actions were confirmed when Obama tried to implement a second, similar program in 2014 called the Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents program, or DAPA. Like DACA, DAPA provided an administrative amnesty for illegal aliens who came to the U.S. as adults and gave them work authorizations and access to government benefits.
The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a nationwide injunction against DAPA, which the Supreme Court allowed to stand. As the Fifth Circuit said, the fact that the president declined to enforce the law and remove illegal aliens "does not transform presence deemed unlawful by Congress into lawful presence and confer eligibility for otherwise unavailable benefits based on that change."
Under our Constitution, Congress has plenary authority over immigration. The president only has the authority delegated to him by Congress – and Congress has never given the president the power to provide a pseudo-amnesty and government benefits to illegal aliens.
The DACA program suffers from exactly the same constitutional infirmities as DAPA. A number of states have threatened to sue the administration to stop the DACA program. In the face of that threat, Trump really had no choice. General Sessions' legal conclusion was that DACA "is vulnerable to the same legal and constitutional challenges that the courts recognized with respect to the DAPA program."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostITS OBAMA'S FAULT! gee. Haven't heard that before. Deflect, deflect, what shirtless Russian dictator? Stormy who?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDumbass. Can you read? Talk about deflection, try considering the truth. Obama had good intentions, unfortunately those intentions were unconstitutional. Congress has the responsibility to act, and for at least the past 8 years they have chosen not to. If congress decides that illegal aliens should not be granted protected status then that is the law. Trump is simply trying to force them to do their jobs. THAT is why he was elected.
Note Roe v Wade is the law of the land ... so tRUMP is not doing his job... he is just simply pandering to his base "Base"... pathetic.
tRUMP is not doing his job... a complete embarrassment.
Making America Great Again ... what a pathetic joke.
tRUMP is not doing his job...
and you voted for this abomination...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFailure ... tRUMP is thy name. "The Art of the Deal"? Clearly Bull****.
Note Roe v Wade is the law of the land ... so tRUMP is not doing his job... he is just simply pandering to his base "Base"... pathetic.
tRUMP is not doing his job... a complete embarrassment.
Making America Great Again ... what a pathetic joke.
tRUMP is not doing his job...
and you voted for this abomination...
But he has done nothing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLowered taxes, Lowered unemployment, brought back millions in corporate investment, stock market up 20+%, reduction in regulations
But he has done nothing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLowered taxes, Lowered unemployment, brought back millions in corporate investment, stock market up 20+%, reduction in regulations
But he has done nothing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe stock market is BS red herring argument. The stock market is globally interconnected. Markets all over the world are up. Most western markets are up significantly more than the US market. Stop watching Fox News and watch some financial news. International investment and development in the US is down, our trade relationships are damaged. Like it or not, we live in a global economy.
There are many experts expecting a big market correction soon as they think the market is overheated. If that happens that will be fully under his watch, but I'm sure he'll blame Obama or Hillary's emails.
http://time.com/money/5054009/stock-...rcent-richest/
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFailure ... tRUMP is thy name. "The Art of the Deal"? Clearly Bull****.
Note Roe v Wade is the law of the land ... so tRUMP is not doing his job... he is just simply pandering to his base "Base"... pathetic.
tRUMP is not doing his job... a complete embarrassment.
Making America Great Again ... what a pathetic joke.
tRUMP is not doing his job...
and you voted for this abomination...
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