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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    1. No, MJ did not develop everyone in the state at that age group for years. Some of those kids came from Westside Copa and some from BSC. With or without MJ, these kids are talented and would have "developed" at GPS, Westside, FC Portland, etc.

    2. Yes, GPS has to recruit for membership fees. It's a franchise operation so the only way to survive is to recruit, just like every club in the world.

    3. Yes, MJ is hard to be trusted for sure because he lies. Quite a shady character.

    4. Both MJ and Kevin Legg are shady characters. They can't get a job outside of soccer because of their lack of intellect and business acumen. What they did get right is that in Oregon soccer, you can get away with shady practices but in the real business world you cannot. MJ and Kevin don't have any accountability, so they are free to do whatever shady practice they can get away with. The poor sucker parents don't understand that it is better off to pay for a great education because that is what'll get the kids into the best colleges anyway. They'll come to realize this after it's too late and they wasted tons of money on subpar soccer programs.
    Point 4. Goes for both Ecnl & Gda. Education more important than soccer.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

      4. Both MJ and Kevin Legg are shady characters. They can't get a job outside of soccer because of their lack of intellect and business acumen. What they did get right is that in Oregon soccer, you can get away with shady practices but in the real business world you cannot. MJ and Kevin don't have any accountability, so they are free to do whatever shady practice they can get away with. The poor sucker parents don't understand this short process before it's over come to realize this scam way it's too late and they wasted tons of money on subpar soccer programs.
      The traits you highlighted are not limited to these 2, you could of just offered a fill in the blank template inserting 2 names: the DOC and the flunkie 2nd in command at these clubs: WUSC, LOSC, SSC, FCP, EST, BSC, PCU, WaT, WST, THUSC, NEU, GPS, ADF.

      The hook for the two jokers you mentioned is centered on the 1% chance of 'going to college' on athletic scholarship. But the hook at the other clubs mentioned is centered on conning it's local membership into paying 25x more than their current rec fees. By dangling/selling the carrot of joining their so called 'competitive' arm (PDP,YDP,ADP, JR's..) at ages 6, 7, 8, & 9. This migration from rec to 'classic/competitive' for decades took place with a kiddo entering competitive soccer around the start of 5th grade . Now the desperate need for cash flow at these neighborhood extends the reach to the emerging/interested kiddo who by all rights are primarily below average rec level players.

      Parents again are being conned into paying for a label, which Is the same method employed by MJ & KL for GPS/CU.

      The barrier to entry needs to circle back to ones talent and trajectory not the payroll needs of a local non profit club staffers.

      Bottom line everyone is using this method in one form or another: private training, RTC/ODP, club camps, club academies, get a trophy tournies what's lost is a platform for the truly talented players to compete and develop in our state.

      The Con marches on.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The traits you highlighted are not limited to these 2, you could of just offered a fill in the blank template inserting 2 names: the DOC and the flunkie 2nd in command at these clubs: WUSC, LOSC, SSC, FCP, EST, BSC, PCU, WaT, WST, THUSC, NEU, GPS, ADF.

        The hook for the two jokers you mentioned is centered on the 1% chance of 'going to college' on athletic scholarship. But the hook at the other clubs mentioned is centered on conning it's local membership into paying 25x more than their current rec fees. By dangling/selling the carrot of joining their so called 'competitive' arm (PDP,YDP,ADP, JR's..) at ages 6, 7, 8, & 9. This migration from rec to 'classic/competitive' for decades took place with a kiddo entering competitive soccer around the start of 5th grade . Now the desperate need for cash flow at these neighborhood extends the reach to the emerging/interested kiddo who by all rights are primarily below average rec level players.

        Parents again are being conned into paying for a label, which Is the same method employed by MJ & KL for GPS/CU.

        The barrier to entry needs to circle back to ones talent and trajectory not the payroll needs of a local non profit club staffers.

        Bottom line everyone is using this method in one form or another: private training, RTC/ODP, club camps, club academies, get a trophy tournies what's lost is a platform for the truly talented players to compete and develop in our state.

        The Con marches on.
        truth and nothing but the truth, thank you!

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The traits you highlighted are not limited to these 2, you could of just offered a fill in the blank template inserting 2 names: the DOC and the flunkie 2nd in command at these clubs: WUSC, LOSC, SSC, FCP, EST, BSC, PCU, WaT, WST, THUSC, NEU, GPS, ADF.

          The hook for the two jokers you mentioned is centered on the 1% chance of 'going to college' on athletic scholarship. But the hook at the other clubs mentioned is centered on conning it's local membership into paying 25x more than their current rec fees. By dangling/selling the carrot of joining their so called 'competitive' arm (PDP,YDP,ADP, JR's..) at ages 6, 7, 8, & 9. This migration from rec to 'classic/competitive' for decades took place with a kiddo entering competitive soccer around the start of 5th grade . Now the desperate need for cash flow at these neighborhood extends the reach to the emerging/interested kiddo who by all rights are primarily below average rec level players.

          Parents again are being conned into paying for a label, which Is the same method employed by MJ & KL for GPS/CU.

          The barrier to entry needs to circle back to ones talent and trajectory not the payroll needs of a local non profit club staffers.

          Bottom line everyone is using this method in one form or another: private training, RTC/ODP, club camps, club academies, get a trophy tournies what's lost is a platform for the truly talented players to compete and develop in our state.

          The Con marches on.
          Isn't this the truth, thank you!

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The traits you highlighted are not limited to these 2, you could of just offered a fill in the blank template inserting 2 names: the DOC and the flunkie 2nd in command at these clubs: WUSC, LOSC, SSC, FCP, EST, BSC, PCU, WaT, WST, THUSC, NEU, GPS, ADF.

            The hook for the two jokers you mentioned is centered on the 1% chance of 'going to college' on athletic scholarship. But the hook at the other clubs mentioned is centered on conning it's local membership into paying 25x more than their current rec fees. By dangling/selling the carrot of joining their so called 'competitive' arm (PDP,YDP,ADP, JR's..) at ages 6, 7, 8, & 9. This migration from rec to 'classic/competitive' for decades took place with a kiddo entering competitive soccer around the start of 5th grade . Now the desperate need for cash flow at these neighborhood clubs extends the reach to the emerging/interested kiddo who by all rights are primarily below average rec level players.

            Parents again are being conned into paying for a label, which Is the same method employed by MJ & KL for GPS/CU.

            The barrier to entry needs to circle back to ones talent and trajectory not the payroll needs of a local non profit club staffers.

            Bottom line everyone is using this method in one form or another: private training, RTC/ODP, club camps, club academies, get a trophy tournies what's lost is a platform for the truly talented players to compete and develop in our state.

            The Con marches on.
            Source Code: for clubs & private trainers in plain text. Appreciated.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Fact

              1. GPS and MJ out developed everyone in the state at that age group for years. That includes the washed up coaches at cu and Fcp.

              2. GPS recruited from everyone and quiet frankly got some club hopper families that left.

              3. MJ is hard to be trusted but also the propaganda liars from Fcp and cu claim Ecnl is the cure to cancer but come to find out they are begging parents from other clubs to replace the kids they screwed over.

              4. Anyone who doesn't see that GPS is probably still the best team in the state and cu completely is trying to avoid anyone that can call them out of their shady practices and lying supporters.
              Sorry to hear you at still having so many delusions. Thought you'd be cured of those by now...

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The traits you highlighted are not limited to these 2, you could of just offered a fill in the blank template inserting 2 names: the DOC and the flunkie 2nd in command at these clubs: WUSC, LOSC, SSC, FCP, EST, BSC, PCU, WaT, WST, THUSC, NEU, GPS, ADF.

                The hook for the two jokers you mentioned is centered on the 1% chance of 'going to college' on athletic scholarship. But the hook at the other clubs mentioned is centered on conning it's local membership into paying 25x more than their current rec fees. By dangling/selling the carrot of joining their so called 'competitive' arm (PDP,YDP,ADP, JR's..) at ages 6, 7, 8, & 9. This migration from rec to 'classic/competitive' for decades took place with a kiddo entering competitive soccer around the start of 5th grade . Now the desperate need for cash flow at these neighborhood clubs extends the reach to the emerging/interested kiddo who by all rights are primarily below average rec level players.

                Parents again are being conned into paying for a label, which Is the same method employed by MJ & KL for GPS/CU.

                The barrier to entry needs to circle back to ones talent and trajectory not the payroll needs of a local non profit club staffers.

                Bottom line everyone is using this method in one form or another: private training, RTC/ODP, club camps, club academies, get a trophy tournies what's lost is a platform for the truly talented players to compete and develop in our state.

                The Con marches on.
                When will we wake up and demand change?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The reason the GPS 03 parents are so delusional is because they have drunk the Kool-Aid from their cult leader, MJ Tate. MJ feeds them lies about how exceptional their daughters are and he tells them ECNL is a waste of money, although truth be told, the club fees are nearly the same as GPS and the local ECNL teams, and the travel costs are similar. Keep in mind that the high costs for ECNL and GPS is all in the travel, not the club fees. GPS is a franchise business, so MJ needs to protect his little franchise. He is nothing without the 03 girls, so he will do everything to protect them and his pathetic ego. The parents believe everything he says, that he knows the pathway to college soccer. What's disturbing is that these parents don't know the other side of MJ because while he is a god in their eyes and does everything to please these parents, he is a monster to everyone else. Another truth: MJ firewalls his team from any opportunities outside of GPS. When he is approached by other coaches about engaging his players in National Training opportunities, for example, he rejects these offers because he is terrified his 03 girls will leave him. Again, he is nothing without those 03 girls. The 03 parents are suckers, however based on what I've learned about their recent losing streak, they are now wondering whether GPS is the best avenue for their precious daughters' soccer careers.
                  Thank you for this post. It provides an interesting perspective we should all consider when selecting a soccer program.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Thank you for this post. It provides an interesting perspective we should all consider when selecting a soccer program.
                    I can't stand this - we're not just an 03 club! Our younger teams are hitting stride too!
                    There have been a few defections from our program but we haven't seen an impact. In other words there is a system here at GPS that doesn't depend on one or two players! Have at it with your own clubs and leave us alone to win another Cup. Another title is within the vision of our leaders and will not be eclipsed by any Timbers, National team or ECNL scouts and recruiters. Go back to your own forums and let us JUST WIN, BABY!

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I can't stand this - we're not just an 03 club! Our younger teams are hitting stride too!
                      There have been a few defections from our program but we haven't seen an impact. In other words there is a system here at GPS that doesn't depend on one or two players! Have at it with your own clubs and leave us alone to win another Cup. Another title is within the vision of our leaders and will not be eclipsed by any Timbers, National team or ECNL scouts and recruiters. Go back to your own forums and let us JUST WIN, BABY!
                      I think you reiterated the overall point: it's about the coach and the club above all else, not about the kid(s) and their futures. Enjoy the Cherry Kool-Aid!

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I can't stand this - we're not just an 03 club! Our younger teams are hitting stride too!
                        There have been a few defections from our program but we haven't seen an impact. In other words there is a system here at GPS that doesn't depend on one or two players! Have at it with your own clubs and leave us alone to win another Cup. Another title is within the vision of our leaders and will not be eclipsed by any Timbers, National team or ECNL scouts and recruiters. Go back to your own forums and let us JUST WIN, BABY!
                        Aren't there only 5 original girls on the 03 team?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Aren't there only 5 original girls on the 03 team?
                          This team is not very good anymore, barely squeaking by the Dragons team who is ranked so low. What happened to GPS? I know they lost a couple of really good players, but surely those two are not the entire team?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            This team is not very good anymore, barely squeaking by the Dragons team who is ranked so low. What happened to GPS? I know they lost a couple of really good players, but surely those two are not the entire team?
                            Who are the Dragons?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This team is not very good anymore, barely squeaking by the Dragons team who is ranked so low. What happened to GPS? I know they lost a couple of really good players, but surely those two are not the entire team?
                              There are several theories which have been discussed but here's a summary;
                              1. Some of the GPS parents/coaches believe they are as good or better than last year. The defectors were toxic and replaceable.
                              2. Some contest the best talent walked out the door and there's not enough left to be highly competitive anymore.
                              3. Some argue that MJ is distracted with all of his other responsibilities and not able to devote the time that's needed to this group to keep them ahead of the competition.
                              4. Some argue that last year's performance was nothing to boast about since GPS could not get games with high caliber competition such as Crossfire Premier, Seattle Reign and the like.

                              Any other theories?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Who are the Dragons?
                                http://www.pugetsoundpremierleague.c...D1503355799884

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