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    #46
    The boat payment

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Daughters team has 19 but 5 are only part time players. I think game day will only be 14-15.
    This post.

    My daughter's team has 19

    And the coach told me he only intends to train and play 14. His "boat payment", as he calls them, doesn't include my kid, so I'm totally OK with this arrangement. Though you bubble parents could argue this is an unethical money grab, and the blatant chicanery allows the "boat payment" to associate with the best of the best that will probably be professional players one day, "making less annually then a McDonalds manager". That scholarship is mine! I just need to get rid of any kid taller than 4'10 and heavier than 75 lbs. on my kid's U14 team.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      If you have 1 rockstar GK that is usually good for league games. Then bring along a 2nd for showcases and really long travel.
      Any good coached and ran club/team will always carry two GK's. It isn't unusual for teams to carry 18 players in the older age(U14 and older) groups and more competitive leagues.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Any good coached and ran club/team will always carry two GK's. It isn't unusual for teams to carry 18 players in the older age(U14 and older) groups and more competitive leagues.
        GK's need playing time more than any other position. If you carry 2 every week neither will develop as they should. That thought process might fly for U17 and up but it's terrible for the development of a younger keeper. The girls that get recruited to play in college are the ones that are playing all of every game.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          GK's need playing time more than any other position. If you carry 2 every week neither will develop as they should. That thought process might fly for U17 and up but it's terrible for the development of a younger keeper. The girls that get recruited to play in college are the ones that are playing all of every game.
          Not true and while playing time is always good for every position and player , it is not in the best interest of the club or team. It also can have a negative impact on players if they do not have to consistently fight for their position to stay sharp and focused.
          Again if they are in U14 and up, the team should always carry two GK's, it is a clear sign of a quality coached and ran club. The only exception to the rule is in rural areas where players might not be as available.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Not true and while playing time is always good for every position and player , it is not in the best interest of the club or team. It also can have a negative impact on players if they do not have to consistently fight for their position to stay sharp and focused.
            Again if they are in U14 and up, the team should always carry two GK's, it is a clear sign of a quality coached and ran club. The only exception to the rule is in rural areas where players might not be as available.
            assuming two quality GKs are available. i wouldn't fill out the roster spot with a second GK just to have two. it would have to be a quality GK, otherwise you are wasting a roster spot.

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              #51
              19 players are WAY too many for U13. Especially if the coach tries to play everyone.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Not true and while playing time is always good for every position and player , it is not in the best interest of the club or team. It also can have a negative impact on players if they do not have to consistently fight for their position to stay sharp and focused.
                Again if they are in U14 and up, the team should always carry two GK's, it is a clear sign of a quality coached and ran club. The only exception to the rule is in rural areas where players might not be as available.
                Carrying a 2nd keeper that isn't close to being as good as the 1st is not the sign of a "quality coached and ran club". It's a sign that player is being held back because of a lack of quality from the coach/club.

                They can fight for their spot with the keeper that is getting full reps from the 2nd team. The clubs that carry (and play) 2 keepers is basically telling the keepers that their hopes to play at next level doesn't matter. Look at the best female GK from Florida last year in the U18/19 group. She is playing D1 at VA Tech and didn't split playing time. The club "carried" a 2nd keeper but she played maybe 10 minutes throughout the season, usually last sub opportunity if GD was +/- 2. What is the point of being that 2nd keeper? Play for a lower level team to get game experience.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Carrying a 2nd keeper that isn't close to being as good as the 1st is not the sign of a "quality coached and ran club". It's a sign that player is being held back because of a lack of quality from the coach/club.

                  They can fight for their spot with the keeper that is getting full reps from the 2nd team. The clubs that carry (and play) 2 keepers is basically telling the keepers that their hopes to play at next level doesn't matter. Look at the best female GK from Florida last year in the U18/19 group. She is playing D1 at VA Tech and didn't split playing time. The club "carried" a 2nd keeper but she played maybe 10 minutes throughout the season, usually last sub opportunity if GD was +/- 2. What is the point of being that 2nd keeper? Play for a lower level team to get game experience.

                  Is it still play to pay for the second keeper?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Carrying a 2nd keeper that isn't close to being as good as the 1st is not the sign of a "quality coached and ran club". It's a sign that player is being held back because of a lack of quality from the coach/club.

                    They can fight for their spot with the keeper that is getting full reps from the 2nd team. The clubs that carry (and play) 2 keepers is basically telling the keepers that their hopes to play at next level doesn't matter. Look at the best female GK from Florida last year in the U18/19 group. She is playing D1 at VA Tech and didn't split playing time. The club "carried" a 2nd keeper but she played maybe 10 minutes throughout the season, usually last sub opportunity if GD was +/- 2. What is the point of being that 2nd keeper? Play for a lower level team to get game experience.
                    This is exactly the problem with parents, they think they know the right way but except for some that really understand or get it, the majority are clueless on how top flight teams should be run and how competition produces better players but they prefer too have their precise playing time.
                    Training is key, yes games are important but if they are training against the best talent, that player should improve, if not then they need to come to terms with where they are talent wise.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Carrying a 2nd keeper that isn't close to being as good as the 1st is not the sign of a "quality coached and ran club". It's a sign that player is being held back because of a lack of quality from the coach/club.

                      They can fight for their spot with the keeper that is getting full reps from the 2nd team. The clubs that carry (and play) 2 keepers is basically telling the keepers that their hopes to play at next level doesn't matter. Look at the best female GK from Florida last year in the U18/19 group. She is playing D1 at VA Tech and didn't split playing time. The club "carried" a 2nd keeper but she played maybe 10 minutes throughout the season, usually last sub opportunity if GD was +/- 2. What is the point of being that 2nd keeper? Play for a lower level team to get game experience.
                      This poster does not get it or understand soccer or completive sports.

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                        #56
                        Teams shall carry no more then 18 players. Two of them must be goalkeepers.
                        Professional teams carry a squad of 30. But only 18 can be named on game day.
                        World Cup teams carries a squad of 23. Three of them are usually goalkeepers.
                        Youth Soccer shall carry no more than 18. Anything more then that and you run a risk of not getting sufficient playing time at a critical age where playing time is key on the development of the players.
                        Because most South American players get a lot of playing time during their youth, is believed that is the reason they are so much more technically proficient then those developed in the United States. Diego Maradona tells on his book that from the age of 5 till 8 He spent an average of 8 hours a day everyday playing soccer in the neighborhood. Once discovered at 8 he averaged 130 games a season with his Club. Think about that for a minute.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Teams shall carry no more then 18 players. Two of them must be goalkeepers.
                          Professional teams carry a squad of 30. But only 18 can be named on game day.
                          World Cup teams carries a squad of 23. Three of them are usually goalkeepers.
                          Youth Soccer shall carry no more than 18. Anything more then that and you run a risk of not getting sufficient playing time at a critical age where playing time is key on the development of the players.
                          Because most South American players get a lot of playing time during their youth, is believed that is the reason they are so much more technically proficient then those developed in the United States. Diego Maradona tells on his book that from the age of 5 till 8 He spent an average of 8 hours a day everyday playing soccer in the neighborhood. Once discovered at 8 he averaged 130 games a season with his Club. Think about that for a minute.
                          130 games a season, probably overkill but 30 games a season like many clubs is definitely not enough. The younger the kid the more games they should be playing. If U19 is playing 40, U17 should be about 45, U15 50, U13 55, U11 60.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            For me it would come down to the league they're in. If top league, suck it up, you don't want to be out of that. You may never get back in. Those kids will only get better.

                            If middling league, it'll be about playing time. If not a lot available, move onto another option if and only if the training at the other option is better.
                            If your kid is good, you will get back in. This is obviously a coach trying to keep his players from leaving. At U12? You should definitely be playing more.

                            I'm not sure what club the original poster was talking about, but alot of the supposedly top team in South Florida don't have the best teams and definitely not the top players. But the coaches talk it as they have the best team. Ironically, those coaches also don't have the best training either.

                            19 Players + Training not that good = decline in your kids play.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This poster does not get it or understand soccer or completive sports.
                              Sorry. That poster played a D1 sport you idiot. Why waste a roster spot on a 2nd keeper that isn't close to being as good as the first? This is youth sports. Not the ****ing world cup.

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                                #60
                                Source

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                130 games a season, probably overkill but 30 games a season like many clubs is definitely not enough. The younger the kid the more games they should be playing. If U19 is playing 40, U17 should be about 45, U15 50, U13 55, U11 60.
                                Other than your clouded mind PLEASE post the source of those numbers....

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