u17 Scorpions ECNL

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Still in last place in the division and lowest PPG, but the PPG isn't 0.00 anymore!

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Still in last place in the division and lowest PPG, but the PPG isn't 0.00 anymore!

Not with Scorpions but you are a tool.

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Not with Scorpions but you are a tool.

Ok mom, sure your not.

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It seems to me that there is an "11 cabs for 11 players" vibe on these top teams now as opposed to the younger age groups. Those who are committed have an air of superiority and those who aren't are getting frantic and depending on each other while even possibly competing with each other for slots at the same college. Comraderie and team unity has eroded. There is an every man for himself feeling.

Not to mention that the kids are just plain tired. They are at the end of their hardest academic year all while balancing crazy soccer travel and the requisite social engagements.

Why do you all claim to know so much about what is happening in the minds of the U17 players in the state?

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As part of their recruiting presentation Harvard states up front that the athlete's get no special treatment at all. They are viewed as just another student with an extra curricular activity and get no special consideration nor special resources. Speaking from experience you will find that there always is an undertone from the professors towards the athletes.

This is 100% BS. If Harvard wants a top-level player, the rules are very different. If you are an above average student, you are in. They don't even care about SAT scores hitting 2000 which is the typical goal for athletes at Ivies. Once in college, you will find the same academic support as is found at D1 schools.

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This is 100% BS. If Harvard wants a top-level player, the rules are very different. If you are an above average student, you are in. They don't even care about SAT scores hitting 2000 which is the typical goal for athletes at Ivies. Once in college, you will find the same academic support as is found at D1 schools.

Guess that you have never heard of the AI then. All the Ivies have agreed not to accept any athlete with an AI of less than 176. That minimum translates into roughly a B average with 1140 on the math and verbal. Each school in the league is then assigned a number that reflects one standard deviation below the scores for their entire student body. Their recruiting classes must average at or above that number. The typical academic profile of an athlete going to the Ivies will be an A- student with 1300.

As far as academic services, the Ivies give no special resources to their athletes. This is from Brown

Academic Services

Academics should always be the student-athlete's first priority. The staff of the Athletic Department is available to help the student-athlete achieve a degree, but the student-athlete is responsible for seeking help from Brown's vast network of student support. Each student at Brown is assigned an Academic Advisor. Faculty members serving as academic counselors are available to advise students on academic programs, concentrations, and progress towards a degree.

Resources to Help Students:

•Advising Central (J. Walter Wilson, 2nd Floor) This offers one-stop advising for students in J. Walter Wilson every weekday afternoon.

•Brown Tutoring Program

•Writing Center (J. Walter Wilson, 2nd Floor)

•Math Center in the Math Department

•Randall Advisors (faculty who hold office hours each week in Advising Central to advise sophomores) These advisors meet with students in Advising Central, on the second floor of J. Walter Wilson

Tutors are available through the university. When a student-athlete is in need of a tutor, they are encouraged to seek one through the Dean of the College Office. The university tutoring website is listed above. If a tutor is not available through the university or through the tutoring website, please email or call the Associate Athletic Director for further assistance.

In addition to the services the university supplies, each team has a Faculty and/or Dean Liaison who assists members of their team with academic concerns. Each team also has a Peer Advisor who is available to assist teammates with any academic issues. Consult your captains or coaches to find out the name of your Peer Advisor, Faculty

Basically this is what is available to the average Brown student. Now compare that with what is available at BC. http://www.bc.edu/content/bc/offices/lrsa.html BC has an entire department just focused on getting their athletes through college. In addition to that, those athletes also have all of the standard resources that Brown is mentioning available to them.

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The Academic Index is used by the Patriot League as well as the Ivies, which may impact BU recruiting

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One thing a lot of these knuckle heads never seem to get is just how difficult it is to get the sort of top end grade AND travel all over the country playing soccer at the same time. Not that it isn't doable but kids that do it sure are not spending a lot of time in front of the tv or hanging out with their friends.

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My kid was told be NESCAC coach recently (similar standards to Ivy) that her 4.0 GPA and 2000 SAT will get her in on her own and he doesn't have to burn a tip.

I wonder how many kids get onto to Ivy team roster because of their impact on bringing up the AI although soccer skills may not be at the level of play?

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My kid was told be NESCAC coach recently (similar standards to Ivy) that her 4.0 GPA and 2000 SAT will get her in on her own and he doesn't have to burn a tip.

I wonder how many kids get onto to Ivy team roster because of their impact on bringing up the AI although soccer skills may not be at the level of play?

I would be careful with that. Maybe some NESCAC schools will accept that but my D needed tip with 2070 SAT and high GPA to "guarantee" admission.

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My kid was told be NESCAC coach recently (similar standards to Ivy) that her 4.0 GPA and 2000 SAT will get her in on her own and he doesn't have to burn a tip.

I wonder how many kids get onto to Ivy team roster because of their impact on bringing up the AI although soccer skills may not be at the level of play?

Your kid must be able to play because those stats aren't the type that a coach uses to raise the overall team stats.

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One thing a lot of these knuckle heads never seem to get is just how difficult it is to get the sort of top end grade AND travel all over the country playing soccer at the same time. Not that it isn't doable but kids that do it sure are not spending a lot of time in front of the tv or hanging out with their friends.

Yep, they just never seem to get it...and yet, most miraculously seem to struggle on with their lives. And even more amazing that some families can even function at all without relying on the sage advice available on TS.

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Knock yourselves out I admit it: Perspective is a convicted felon....Perspective is a convicted felon....Perspective is a convicted felon.

Admitted convicted felons should not be allowed around children never mind youth sports

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Your kid must be able to play because those stats aren't the type that a coach uses to raise the overall team stats.

Willing to bet that truly "recruited" Ivy League players on average aren't much higher than 2050 with an 3.7-4.0 unweighted GPA. There may be a couple out there but at 2,100 you are in the bottom threshold of the middle 50% of most regular admissions at an Ivy.

You would have to think sports a players "unique" skills in a sport would get them more than 100 or so points assuming a good track records of grades and challenging courses.

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Your kid must be able to play because those stats aren't the type that a coach uses to raise the overall team stats.

Exactly. The rules all change if you are a top level player. Fact. You can quote all sorts of stats, but I know first hand that the "rules" are broken.