Stars moving into south shore.

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Simple, reasonable solution.

US Club Soccer is the governing body of the ECNL, NYNPL and the NPL.

The ECNL and the NPL have a relationship already as the NPL are the second sides of the ECNL clubs. The NYNPL teams are made up of large, well run clubs.

Combine the three leagues. Make them into divisions and have promotion/relegation on an annual basis. It would reduce travel, costs and provide a more compeitive local environment that would increase development of our local players. Save money for destination tournaments and cant miss showcases.

That will never happen, reasonable as it sounds. The local NYNPL members would then have to admit that their top teams would be in the same league as the ECNL clubs second sides. A harder sell to parents than telling them the NY NPL is the highest level.

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The problem with you idea and it is a good idea is that all the leagues are club based and not team based. This is what the problem is with these private leagues and promotion and relegation. You are not going to have strong teams at every age group in the leagues. They counted on the best players going to these clubs to play the best soccer at a one stop shop for college and NT coaches. The problem is that parents did not buy into switching to these clubs like the league and clubs hoped. Also clubs that are not in these leagues bash them becasue they don't want to lose the players on their teams. Rather than looking at the big picture everybody looks at their own wallet size picture.

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That will never happen, reasonable as it sounds. The local NYNPL members would then have to admit that their top teams would be in the same league as the ECNL clubs second sides. A harder sell to parents than telling them the NY NPL is the highest level.

Agree. The "carrot" would be potential elevation to the ECNL through promotion/relegation process. This way everyone puts up or shuts up about the quality of the teams, leagues, clubs. It is settled on the field.

It is one of the things MAPLE had right. Unfortunately, it is more difficult to make a sales pitch to parents when your top team is in the third division. The cream would rise and the pretenders would fall. As Bill Parcells said, "you are what your record says you are"

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Are you really that dumb. They already are in the same league (NPL) The NYNPL is on the same level as the NENPL and all the other NPL leagues in the country. The will all go and play in an NPL play-off at the end of the year. I would love to see the team from the NENPL beat the NYNPL just to prove a point. You parents believe everything your club tells you. Just becasue your club tells you something does not make it true.

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That will never happen, reasonable as it sounds. The local NYNPL members would then have to admit that their top teams would be in the same league as the ECNL clubs second sides. A harder sell to parents than telling them the NY NPL is the highest level.

Not only that, but why would other clubs' top teams play second teams? As good as you think ECNL second teams are, most are not on the same level as the NY NPL teams. Maybe Stars being the exception.

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The problem with you idea and it is a good idea is that all the leagues are club based and not team based. This is what the problem is with these private leagues and promotion and relegation. You are not going to have strong teams at every age group in the leagues. They counted on the best players going to these clubs to play the best soccer at a one stop shop for college and NT coaches. The problem is that parents did not buy into switching to these clubs like the league and clubs hoped. Also clubs that are not in these leagues bash them becasue they don't want to lose the players on their teams. Rather than looking at the big picture everybody looks at their own wallet size picture.

Easily solved. In order to be a member you must have certain infrastructure in place, relative strength in volume of teams at all age groups. These criteria are already there in ECNL, NPL, NYNPL and even NEP. It is already done.

This system would still eliminate the stand alone team on a smaller club. That team would have to pursue R1 as an avenue to play at a higher level.

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Not only that, but why would other clubs' top teams play second teams? As good as you think ECNL second teams are, most are not on the same level as the NY NPL teams. Maybe Stars being the exception.

Maybe so, but why not prove superiority or inferiority on the field and in the standings? They best teams would get promoted, the worst relegated.

It would take one season to put all of this to bed.

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Are you really that dumb. They already are in the same league (NPL) The NYNPL is on the same level as the NENPL and all the other NPL leagues in the country. The will all go and play in an NPL play-off at the end of the year. I would love to see the team from the NENPL beat the NYNPL just to prove a point. You parents believe everything your club tells you. Just becasue your club tells you something does not make it true.

So you think ECNL is the best league? Or is NYNPL the best league? Or NENPL is just as good as NYNPL? Depends on where you sit doesn't it? Let's everyone put their club politics aside and come up with a system that works for the consumer and allows the best teams to play one another and allows the argument to be settled on the field.

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This format is not based on the best teams. It is based on the best clubs. You need to stop arguing team relegation and promotion but club relegation and promotion. This is what you people do not understand. What is good for your age group is not good for others.

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I actually think several teams in the NENPL (PDA, Stars and CFC) could beat NEFC Elite NPL if things went their way.

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Are you really that dumb. They already are in the same league (NPL) The NYNPL is on the same level as the NENPL and all the other NPL leagues in the country. The will all go and play in an NPL play-off at the end of the year. I would love to see the team from the NENPL beat the NYNPL just to prove a point. You parents believe everything your club tells you. Just becasue your club tells you something does not make it true.

The top 2 teams in the NENPL (PDA and Stars) will have a good shot at doing exactly that. The problem with the rest of the NENPL is that it is very mediocre at best. The argument that traveling for blowouts is a very valid one.

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Simple, reasonable solution.

US Club Soccer is the governing body of the ECNL, NYNPL and the NPL.

The ECNL and the NPL have a relationship already as the NPL are the second sides of the ECNL clubs. The NYNPL teams are made up of large, well run clubs.

Combine the three leagues. Make them into divisions and have promotion/relegation on an annual basis. It would reduce travel, costs and provide a more compeitive local environment that would increase development of our local players. Save money for destination tournaments and cant miss showcases.

We recently played an FC Virginia team that has something like 5 top 20 commits playing on it. Unfortunately there is nothing even remotely close to that level of team around here. At best you have a couple of medium level D1 prospects surrounded by healthy doses of D3 prospects. A huge part of the problem is there are just way too many clubs fielding way too many teams so that the whole region is simply watered down. The first thing we have to do is get rid of some of these teams and start pushing the better players towards the better teams. Promo relegation is one part of the process but as long as marketing spin is the only way to determine who is any good the clubs will just keep adding teams and you are going to continue to end up playing dog teams.

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This format is not based on the best teams. It is based on the best clubs. You need to stop arguing team relegation and promotion but club relegation and promotion. This is what you people do not understand. What is good for your age group is not good for others.

The clubs would be entered into this 3 division system. The teams of those clubs would be relegated or promoted based on results.

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I actually think several teams in the NENPL (PDA, Stars and CFC) could beat NEFC Elite NPL if things went their way.

And I am sure that NEFC ELITE NPL could beat many teams in the ECNL. To take it a step further, some of the NENPL teams could beat ECNL teams if given the opportunity.

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Some of the details are inappropriate behavior with both players and parents. Other issues were he sits in a beach chair all through practice and on the sidelines during games and shouts instructions to his players. He fools around at practice more than he runs a practice. He's famous for verbally abusing refs during games. The fact that he's at his 3rd club only staying at each a few years before either being fired or asked to leave should say alot too. Overall he is very immature and loses alot of kids from his teams every year.

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the insight.