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    #16
    [QUOTE=Unregistered;2031023]
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

    Correction...Fall not Spring
    6 wins, 10 losses, 2 ties, -2 goal diff. 5th out of 7 in the table (if there was a table...). Not at all bad but I don't know that this looks like "one of the best" based on results.

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      #17
      [QUOTE=Unregistered;2031028]
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

      6 wins, 10 losses, 2 ties, -2 goal diff. 5th out of 7 in the table (if there was a table...). Not at all bad but I don't know that this looks like "one of the best" based on results.
      Looks like someone is keeping a table!
      I said they were not one of the best teams in the Fall...which your table includes.

      They are one of the best teams this Spring. And development is what it's all about, isn't it?

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        #18
        Because it's difficult to play as they're coached when they're over-matched and under pressure in most games. Developmentally good decision to play against teams of similar ability.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          boys and girls, most age groups,
          I don't understand why they play down,

          2017 PTT spring league,

          Boys,
          BU12 Division2 Green
          first place on division 2… great,

          BU13 Division2 green,
          2nd place,

          BU14 Division2 green,
          2nd place,

          Girls
          GU11 Division 2 Red,
          4 place,

          GU12 division2 red
          3rd place

          GU14 navy, premier division red
          Last place, 23 goals against,

          http://oysa-2017springleague.sportsaffinity.com
          I'm a Westside parent, but this is utterly stupid. You're complaining that their third-team BU12 squad is in division 2? Red is the third team. Navy is the first team and managed to win both fall and spring in the top division in the state. Westside's third BU12 team isn't very good either, but who cares? At that level, it's about improving and challenging the players--nobody cares nor should care whether the third team wins or loses their division in OYSA.

          If you're going to trash FC, at least find something sensible to complain about.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I'm a Westside parent, but this is utterly stupid. You're complaining that their third-team BU12 squad is in division 2? Red is the third team. Navy is the first team and managed to win both fall and spring in the top division in the state. Westside's third BU12 team isn't very good either, but who cares? At that level, it's about improving and challenging the players--nobody cares nor should care whether the third team wins or loses their division in OYSA.

            If you're going to trash FC, at least find something sensible to complain about.
            How is their parking lot?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              How is their parking lot?
              Liberty HS has adequate parking, AFAItaCT.

              (Powerlines Park, OTOH--parking there makes Harmony look like a Vegas casino... )

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Liberty HS has adequate parking, AFAItaCT.

                (Powerlines Park, OTOH--parking there makes Harmony look like a Vegas casino... )
                The parking is fine, the field space...not so much

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                  #23
                  [QUOTE=Unregistered;2031028]
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                  6 wins, 10 losses, 2 ties, -2 goal diff. 5th out of 7 in the table (if there was a table...). Not at all bad but I don't know that this looks like "one of the best" based on results.
                  You got the record right for the full year. Goal diff is -1 and Position is 4th out of seven for the full year.

                  Looking at progression, they ended 5th in fall will a -4 goal diff. And averaged 1.82 goals per game.

                  Spring they currently are 3rd, +3 goal diff and avg 2.17 goals per game. That's decent improvement. They beat the #2 team away in Spring. The coaching has been determined and is paying dividends. It's a good program.

                  Just for the record.

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                    #24
                    FC uses player pool

                    These teams win games in 2nd Division because of the shared 2nd team players and perhaps because the pool system, at least in theory, elevates the level of play for developing players.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Speaking only for the U13 and U14 boys...those are both the clubs third team.
                      Their first and second teams play in the top divisions.

                      Beyond that, fc is more about putting players in the correct environment to succeed at playing the right way. They will often challenge one of their teams to go up a level if they are finding success in the Fall playing the right way. The reverse is also true.

                      Winning the second division isn't the goal, I assure you. Helping players develop is
                      What a load of dribble!!! FC have second and third teams to fund the club salaries. They don't give a crap about those teams. They are paying for 2 DOC's that never show up and unqualified coaching staff that have ego's the size of Texas. You have seriously been brainwashed!!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        What a load of dribble!!! FC have second and third teams to fund the club salaries. They don't give a crap about those teams. They are paying for 2 DOC's that never show up and unqualified coaching staff that have ego's the size of Texas. You have seriously been brainwashed!!
                        Good to hear you're still out there TA lemming caveman. World wouldn't be the same without you!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What a load of dribble!!! FC have second and third teams to fund the club salaries. They don't give a crap about those teams. They are paying for 2 DOC's that never show up and unqualified coaching staff that have ego's the size of Texas. You have seriously been brainwashed!!
                          Look, it sounds like you are speaking from your own experience. You kid might be playing on the second or third team at FC. You didn't like the experience, maybe the Navy team has a more experienced coach. And of course, even though it has been advertised as a pool, your kid didn't get a look on the next team up like he should. He's clearly better, right? Or maybe he hasn't improved because of the bad coaching, or the bad new DOCs?

                          Reality check. Your kid probably goes to all the practices, but isn't going to make any marked improvement with his foot on the ball for 3 hours a week. That's typically what kids on the white or red (second or third) teams do. Watch a practice. You will see the difference in approach by Navy players vs the second or third teams. The boys on the lower teams often horse around before, and sometimes during practice. They are there for fun. Or because you don't want them in rec. They probably don't spend time juggling with any regularity on non practice days. They probably don't take an additional session with another coach.they are less into than you are.

                          Reality check 2.0 all clubs have second and third teams with less experienced coaches than the first team. The players on those teams have a much broader range of skills and ambition. The clubs do rely on the income, but do try to develop the players as much as they are able, or the players willing. I emphasize "players willing". This is as true at FC as it is at any other club.

                          If you were unhappy with your overall experience at FC, you are the consumer and can switch to another club very soon. Just don't expect a different result, because chances are your DS will end up on a team of the same level he is playing at now.


                          And by the way, it's"drivel" you speak. Dribble is apparently not what your DS can't do.

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                            #28
                            As a FC PDX parent for 4 years a few items.

                            The second tier team (white) does not have to be a worse coach. On Boys U16, the white team players love their coach and the navy kids wish he was their coach.

                            Also, the white BU16 is doing well and there are not a navy player on that team helping them out.

                            on BU16, why some kids are on navy and some on white. various reasons, skill, focus, parents don't wanting to travel, some white team players refused to go to navy because they did not want to travel or liked the coach, and politics.

                            yes some white team kids are there just for fun and have a rec mentality and do not do additional practices or coaching. So what, some kids just want to have fun in soccer and do not like the stress. They should play soccer too just not at the upper levels

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              As a FC PDX parent for 4 years a few items.

                              The second tier team (white) does not have to be a worse coach. On Boys U16, the white team players love their coach and the navy kids wish he was their coach.

                              Also, the white BU16 is doing well and there are not a navy player on that team helping them out.

                              on BU16, why some kids are on navy and some on white. various reasons, skill, focus, parents don't wanting to travel, some white team players refused to go to navy because they did not want to travel or liked the coach, and politics.

                              yes some white team kids are there just for fun and have a rec mentality and do not do additional practices or coaching. So what, some kids just want to have fun in soccer and do not like the stress. They should play soccer too just not at the upper levels

                              I agree. I wrote the post you are probably responding to. I've had kids on White and on Navy.
                              It depends on what the child wants to do. I think White (or Red) can be A great experience if the parent doesn't get in the middle of it.

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                                #30
                                The parents on these teams were not pleased with the placement this Spring.

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