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    Do all of the major clubs not allow a player to play on their middle or high school team? What age bracket does this begin?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Do all of the major clubs not allow a player to play on their middle or high school team? What age bracket does this begin?
    Only OW and it begins in utero.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Do all of the major clubs not allow a player to play on their middle or high school team? What age bracket does this begin?
      My understanding is that only US Soccer Academy clubs can prevent a kid from playing for their school, which in the case of CT would be Oakwood only. It is also my understanding that as long as the player gives the Academy team 100% priority in any conflict, most Academy coaches will look the other way if a kid wants to play HS ball. Whether or not the HS coach is OK with that is an entirely different question.

      Non-academy teams generally start playing in late October at U15 to avoid the HS conflict. At lower age groups the club team & school team schedules will conflict in the Fall.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        My understanding is that only US Soccer Academy clubs can prevent a kid from playing for their school, which in the case of CT would be Oakwood only. It is also my understanding that as long as the player gives the Academy team 100% priority in any conflict, most Academy coaches will look the other way if a kid wants to play HS ball. Whether or not the HS coach is OK with that is an entirely different question.

        Non-academy teams generally start playing in late October at U15 to avoid the HS conflict. At lower age groups the club team & school team schedules will conflict in the Fall.
        Beachside on boys DAP

        Academy coaches will not look the other way on high school soccer. They do for other sports such as track or basketball

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My understanding is that only US Soccer Academy clubs can prevent a kid from playing for their school, which in the case of CT would be Oakwood only. It is also my understanding that as long as the player gives the Academy team 100% priority in any conflict, most Academy coaches will look the other way if a kid wants to play HS ball. Whether or not the HS coach is OK with that is an entirely different question.

          Non-academy teams generally start playing in late October at U15 to avoid the HS conflict. At lower age groups the club team & school team schedules will conflict in the Fall.
          This is misleading the poster even though you referenced the HS coach.. If the academy coach "looks the other way" and you play HS, your HS team will be forced to forfeit every HS game you play in. This is CIAC. Heck, per rules, you can be ineligible if you wear a HS school jersey to summer camp. If they really were looking out for the kids, they'd take a hard look at limiting practice hours and not allow 4 games/week. They'd also be more agreeable to kids getting college looks.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            My understanding is that only US Soccer Academy clubs can prevent a kid from playing for their school, which in the case of CT would be Oakwood only. It is also my understanding that as long as the player gives the Academy team 100% priority in any conflict, most Academy coaches will look the other way if a kid wants to play HS ball. Whether or not the HS coach is OK with that is an entirely different question.

            Non-academy teams generally start playing in late October at U15 to avoid the HS conflict. At lower age groups the club team & school team schedules will conflict in the Fall.
            It is absolutely against Academy rules to play HS or Middle School soccer. No chance an Academy coach would allow his/her player to do so.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My understanding is that only US Soccer Academy clubs can prevent a kid from playing for their school, which in the case of CT would be Oakwood only. It is also my understanding that as long as the player gives the Academy team 100% priority in any conflict, most Academy coaches will look the other way if a kid wants to play HS ball. Whether or not the HS coach is OK with that is an entirely different question.

              Non-academy teams generally start playing in late October at U15 to avoid the HS conflict. At lower age groups the club team & school team schedules will conflict in the Fall.
              This is utter nonsense and you do not what you are talking about. Please stop posting here as such. OW and BS are both academy programs on the boys side and neither allows you to play anything once you get to the academy ages for the most part. The same will be true for OW girls next year as they are the only GDA program in the state. Perhaps rec or travel basketball up to about 13 or so, but that is it. You can not play HS soccer without a waiver and even then only for prep schools; the fall seasons for these overlap in CT obviously and no kids can play both in the same season (not by CIAC or Academy rules although prep schools could probably care less since parents pay so much).

              For non-DA clubs, FSA allows its ECNL players and other players to do other activities (probably far too many .... especially in the winter at older ages). Attendance for winter practices at FSA is often abysmal even for ECNL teams. The policy at FSA and other places varies by coach and it seems the smaller the club, the more forgiving. As always, the 'enforcability' of any rule is inversely relational to a player's ability; this is true at all clubs (probably most especially at DA clubs).

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Do all of the major clubs not allow a player to play on their middle or high school team? What age bracket does this begin?
                For Boys, Oakwood and Beachside are part of US Soccer Development Academy ("DA"). If you want to play HS soccer, you cannot play in Academy. CIAC HS rules prohibit playing in both at the same time - and the seasons do overlap.

                For Girls, Oakwood is part of US Soccer Development Academy as well. So same rules apply. While the boys DA has been around for over a decade, the girls DA is new and is launching this Fall.

                All other clubs in the State allow for HS play, but seasons do not overlap as is the case with the DA above.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is utter nonsense and you do not what you are talking about. Please stop posting here as such. OW and BS are both academy programs on the boys side and neither allows you to play anything once you get to the academy ages for the most part. The same will be true for OW girls next year as they are the only GDA program in the state. Perhaps rec or travel basketball up to about 13 or so, but that is it. You can not play HS soccer without a waiver and even then only for prep schools; the fall seasons for these overlap in CT obviously and no kids can play both in the same season (not by CIAC or Academy rules although prep schools could probably care less since parents pay so much).

                  For non-DA clubs, FSA allows its ECNL players and other players to do other activities (probably far too many .... especially in the winter at older ages). Attendance for winter practices at FSA is often abysmal even for ECNL teams. The policy at FSA and other places varies by coach and it seems the smaller the club, the more forgiving. As always, the 'enforcability' of any rule is inversely relational to a player's ability; this is true at all clubs (probably most especially at DA clubs).
                  There have been cases of Boys DAP players playing high school basketball. I would assume that both HS and DAP coaches were on board or it wouldn't have happened

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There have been cases of Boys DAP players playing high school basketball. I would assume that both HS and DAP coaches were on board or it wouldn't have happened
                    There are cases of DAP superstars doing whatever they want. Is the kid in question one of those? If not, the rules apply.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      There are cases of DAP superstars doing whatever they want. Is the kid in question one of those? If not, the rules apply.
                      PS - What year was that? Up until 4 or 5 years ago they could also play HS soccer.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        There are cases of DAP superstars doing whatever they want. Is the kid in question one of those? If not, the rules apply.
                        He's definitely very good. PS. This was this year

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                          #13
                          Top talent gets to do whatever the hell they want in 99% of the cases.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Top talent gets to do whatever the hell they want in 99% of the cases.
                            Yes that's true. DA studs that go to private schools can get waivers to play HS soccer. But the club and then Ussf has to approve it. As for other sports in theory you can play. But what happens is the athletes will be exhausted and have little time for homework or a life. When conflicts arise - which will be constantly - DA takes priority. So unless you have an understanding hs coach (yeah right) it's just not workable for most.

                            Number one rule is Ussf doesn't care about hs soccer or multi sport athletes. 100% their soccer their way

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                              #15
                              Given that the OP is a newbie, is it likely their kids is in the DA?

                              They asked about major clubs. No, the major clubs do not forbid middle or high school soccer. The club team should take priority though.

                              In CT, because the public (high) school rules forbid *club* play during the soccer season, there is no conflict, the clubs don't play in the fall, for their high school teams.

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