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    #16
    Timbers DA staff needs to go. Larry , Ryan , midget man need to go now. To many conflict of interest.

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      #17
      Wow, Sacramento

      -is a smaller metro than Portland (looking at Primary Statistical Area for US Census),
      -lacks an MLS team, and
      -has had an academy for a shorter period of time than the Timbers,

      yet Sacramento's academy is far outperforming Timbers' Academy. Too bad it is likely going to fold next year (not getting MLS has been a killer for that academy).

      Not sure Timbers poor academy performance can be explained by population alone.

      Query - would Timbers Academy be more successful today, if their youth initiatives over the last 5 years would have been less focused on the Alliance, running leagues and tournaments, and ODP and more focused on their core Academy?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Wow, Sacramento

        -is a smaller metro than Portland (looking at Primary Statistical Area for US Census),
        -lacks an MLS team, and
        -has had an academy for a shorter period of time than the Timbers,

        yet Sacramento's academy is far outperforming Timbers' Academy. Too bad it is likely going to fold next year (not getting MLS has been a killer for that academy).

        Not sure Timbers poor academy performance can be explained by population alone.

        Query - would Timbers Academy be more successful today, if their youth initiatives over the last 5 years would have been less focused on the Alliance, running leagues and tournaments, and ODP and more focused on their core Academy?
        Who is likely to fold? Sacramento or Portland...just wasn't sure on your sentence above..thanks.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Who is likely to fold? Sacramento or Portland...just wasn't sure on your sentence above..thanks.
          Sacramento's DA may be going away - cost the club a fortune. Too bad, they were doing really well in a midsized market.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Wow, Sacramento

            -is a smaller metro than Portland (looking at Primary Statistical Area for US Census),
            -lacks an MLS team, and
            -has had an academy for a shorter period of time than the Timbers,

            yet Sacramento's academy is far outperforming Timbers' Academy. Too bad it is likely going to fold next year (not getting MLS has been a killer for that academy).

            Not sure Timbers poor academy performance can be explained by population alone.

            Query - would Timbers Academy be more successful today, if their youth initiatives over the last 5 years would have been less focused on the Alliance, running leagues and tournaments, and ODP and more focused on their core Academy?
            Interesting that Sacramento DA is doing better than Timbers DA. Anyone have any guesses why? Since Timbers are connected to and funded by an MLS club I guess there is no pressure because the must have a DA regardless of how they do.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Wow, Sacramento

              -is a smaller metro than Portland (looking at Primary Statistical Area for US Census),
              -lacks an MLS team, and
              -has had an academy for a shorter period of time than the Timbers,

              yet Sacramento's academy is far outperforming Timbers' Academy. Too bad it is likely going to fold next year (not getting MLS has been a killer for that academy).

              Not sure Timbers poor academy performance can be explained by population alone.

              Query - would Timbers Academy be more successful today, if their youth initiatives over the last 5 years would have been less focused on the Alliance, running leagues and tournaments, and ODP and more focused on their core Academy?
              They would be more successful if they could actually keep the politics out of the selection process. That and they are not even getting all the top talent to even tryout. Too many times they favor those who have played for a Timbers alliance team rather than keeping the BEST players which has gotten them into this situation. I know many families that have top level kids that just flat out refuse to be a part of that environment. Don't fool yourself, the truly talented kids with any moral fiber know who should be on the team and recognize the inconsistancy and double standard, even the ones that choose to play for the Timbers.

              Que the "you are just mad your kid did not make it"- Could not be further from the truth as I am speaking from experience of being on both sides of the fence....

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                #22
                Politics play the biggest role plus coachs don't have a clue. Private training gets you on the team plus Larry is doing it for his kid period. Time for a change. People take a look at the GA cup results.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Interesting that Sacramento DA is doing better than Timbers DA. Anyone have any guesses why? Since Timbers are connected to and funded by an MLS club I guess there is no pressure because the must have a DA regardless of how they do.
                  Not sure what Sacramento has been doing well precisely, other than apparently pouring a ton of money into it.

                  Interesting pattern to note here:

                  Before Timbers Academy, Portland had a good track record of producing pros on a per capita basis.

                  It has been argued on this forum (not sure if supported by data, but the argument has been made) that pre-ECNL Oregon produced more women college soccer players.

                  Have these national leagues actually moved the needle for Oregon?

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                    #24
                    Ga cup. Timbers will be playing Orlando tomorrow . Loser takes last place in tournament.
                    Time for a coaching change. It might be a good idea to get a coach that doesn't have a son on the team.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Ga cup. Timbers will be playing Orlando tomorrow . Loser takes last place in tournament.
                      Time for a coaching change. It might be a good idea to get a coach that doesn't have a son on the team.
                      Looks like Revolution is last.

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                        #26
                        The T u16 were last. Revolution had worst pool play. The u12s got 12th out of 20, not bad for a small market team.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The T u16 were last. Revolution had worst pool play. The u12s got 12th out of 20, not bad for a small market team.
                          Good spin, only teams the Timbers u-12's beat in pool play were in the last place games and Colorado and D.C. lost those as well- which means they were in the bottom 20%...coaches and richy rich made some good roster selections...haha I love it when the Timbers fall flat on their face because of politics, just feel bad for the kids as I know they don't like losing but were saddled with a huge anchor

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                            #28
                            Adults cyber bullying eleven year old boys.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Adults cyber bullying eleven year old boys.
                              Not just that, adults cyberbullying eleven-year old boys because the pro team whose academy these boys play for, poses an existential threat to their preferred youth club's business model.

                              FC honks think that if they just try enough, they could be Surf or Sting or some other full-service club from a soccer hotbed with a big enough player pool to support multiple top-rate soccer academies, and view the Timbers academy programs (especially the GDA, which is what a lot of this whining is really about) as a threat to their glorious dreams.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Not just that, adults cyberbullying eleven-year old boys because the pro team whose academy these boys play for, poses an existential threat to their preferred youth club's business model.

                                FC honks think that if they just try enough, they could be Surf or Sting or some other full-service club from a soccer hotbed with a big enough player pool to support multiple top-rate soccer academies, and view the Timbers academy programs (especially the GDA, which is what a lot of this whining is really about) as a threat to their glorious dreams.
                                Noone is bullying these kids; throwing spitballs at Timbers Academy is a different story as the Timbers have sold to many their pyramid.

                                Folks have been questioning the ethics and the health of the Timbers take over youth soccer ever since they extorting $50k from OPL.

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