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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The intel on Soleimani's whereabouts was obviously accurate. Nobody is questioning that.

    Hey Trump supporters, why hasn't the Trump administration showed the bi-partisan Gang of Eight the intelligence proving the imminent threat? Why open yourself up the Wag the Dog accusations if you were on solid ground? Hmmmm
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    Hey Socialist supports, you mean like they did when Ambassador Stevens calls for help were ignored and he was killed, burned, prodded, and dragged through the streets while the protesters celebrated. Hmmmm. So much for Congress heeding warnings from within. It’s nice to see we have a decisive leader that reacts when called.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The intel on Soleimani's whereabouts was obviously accurate. Nobody is questioning that.

      Hey Trump supporters, why hasn't the Trump administration showed the bi-partisan Gang of Eight the intelligence proving the imminent threat? Why open yourself up the Wag the Dog accusations if you were on solid ground? Hmmmm
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      Just wondering if you asked to see bi-partisan support in the past. Let me answer that for you. Nope, because Trump wasn’t the POTUS. 😂 Once again, you’re bathing in hypocrisy!

      “The problem with the War Powers Act? Multiple presidents have virtually ignored it or bent these rules, with no consequences. In 1986, Ronald Reagan attacked sites in Libya in retaliation for a bombing which injured Americans, but did not have congressional approval. In 1999, Bill Clinton launched airstrikes in Yugoslavia, aimed at preventing genocide, without giving proper notice to Congress or consulting lawmakers. In 2011, Barack Obama authorized military strikes in Libya, and argued that the War Powers Act simply didn't apply.“

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Hey Socialist supports, you mean like they did when Ambassador Stevens calls for help were ignored and he was killed, burned, prodded, and dragged through the streets while the protesters celebrated. Hmmmm. So much for Congress heeding warnings from within. It’s nice to see we have a decisive leader that reacts when called.
        So you have no answer to the question, which I assume means you agree the Soleimani attack was ordered without justification. Thank you.

        I'm not sure what you are referring to with Ambassador Stevens. Please provide a link to that news story and explain why it has anything to do with what Trump just did.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Multiple presidents have virtually ignored it or bent these rules, with no consequences. In 1986, Ronald Reagan attacked sites in Libya in retaliation for a bombing which injured Americans, but did not have congressional approval. In 1999, Bill Clinton launched airstrikes in Yugoslavia, aimed at preventing genocide, without giving proper notice to Congress or consulting lawmakers. In 2011, Barack Obama authorized military strikes in Libya, and argued that the War Powers Act simply didn't apply.“
          Those attacks were justified and had public support, so I'm not sure why that has anything to do with what Trump just did.

          You might remember when we attacked Irag in 2003 based on poorly interpreted intelligence that said they had WMDs. Public opinion turned against Bush once the truth came out. You can't blame anyone for being suspicious now, especially given the circumstances.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The intel on Soleimani's whereabouts was obviously accurate. Nobody is questioning that.

            Hey Trump supporters, why hasn't the Trump administration showed the bi-partisan Gang of Eight the intelligence proving the imminent threat? Why open yourself up the Wag the Dog accusations if you were on solid ground? Hmmmm
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            Please provide the link explaining how Trumps failure to consult with Congress is any more egregious than past Presidents who have done the same. Also I need you to provide the link that shows Reagan, Clinton, and Obama all showed Congress imminent threats prior to authorizing military action without congressional knowledge. If you can’t, you’re a lying cuck! 😂

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Those attacks were justified and had public support, so I'm not sure why that has anything to do with what Trump just did.

              You might remember when we attacked Irag in 2003 based on poorly interpreted intelligence that said they had WMDs. Public opinion turned against Bush once the truth came out. You can't blame anyone for being suspicious now, especially given the circumstances.
              Who gives a shît if they were justified or had public support. They didn’t have congressional knowledge or support and were direct violations of The War Powers Act. The exact same thing you’re accusing Trump of doing. I gotta tell u Trump has a shît ton of support for his actions in Iran. Does that make it right? Nope. Your argument is flawed. It’s either a direct violation of the War Powers Act or it isn’t. Public support doesn’t matter. You can call Trump out all day long but it won’t changed the fact multiple Presidents have done the same. Just more hypocrisy!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Please provide the link explaining how Trumps failure to consult with Congress is any more egregious than past Presidents who have done the same. Also I need you to provide the link that shows Reagan, Clinton, and Obama all showed Congress imminent threats prior to authorizing military action without congressional knowledge. If you can’t, you’re a lying cuck! 😂
                You're not familiar with history and you're not paying attention. I'm not questioning the authority of any president to authorize military action if it's justified. Justification doesn't have to include an imminent threat (do some reading on the cases you referenced), but Trump and his apologists specifically mentioned imminent threats to justify last week's strike in Iraq. So why haven't they shown congress the proof of that imminent threat?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Hey Socialist supports, you mean like they did when Ambassador Stevens calls for help were ignored and he was killed, burned, prodded, and dragged through the streets while the protesters celebrated. Hmmmm. So much for Congress heeding warnings from within. It’s nice to see we have a decisive leader that reacts when called.
                  It was the GOP congress who cut $ for embassy protections. They investigated HRC for 4 years and found no wrongdoing. Want to try again with another whataboutism failure?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Who gives a shît if they were justified or had public support. They didn’t have congressional knowledge or support and were direct violations of The War Powers Act. The exact same thing you’re accusing Trump of doing. I gotta tell u Trump has a shît ton of support for his actions in Iran. Does that make it right? Nope. Your argument is flawed. It’s either a direct violation of the War Powers Act or it isn’t. Public support doesn’t matter. You can call Trump out all day long but it won’t changed the fact multiple Presidents have done the same. Just more hypocrisy!
                    We had hearings before we went into Iraq and Afghanistan. See the difference? Oh, and the GOP administration lied to us about why we were going in. Call us skeptical this time.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You're not familiar with history and you're not paying attention. I'm not questioning the authority of any president to authorize military action if it's justified. Justification doesn't have to include an imminent threat (do some reading on the cases you referenced), but Trump and his apologists specifically mentioned imminent threats to justify last week's strike in Iraq. So why haven't they shown congress the proof of that imminent threat?
                      If you don’t think our US embassy being attacked is a obvious threat and justification then there’s no point trying to reason with you. The whole reason why Ambassador Stevens was mentioned is because of the outcome. Multiple requests were made for beefed up security due to increased threats. Obama and his administration ignored those requests and Americans died. You would think maybe just maybe we would have learned from our mistakes. Fast forward today and another US embassy was attacked. Essential personnel were locked in safe rooms. Reports show repeated attacks. They picked the fight. Make no mistake, this is a threat. If you wanna sit on your ass and wait for another 9/11 that’s on you!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        It was the GOP congress who cut $ for embassy protections. They investigated HRC for 4 years and found no wrongdoing. Want to try again with another whataboutism failure?
                        How conveniently they forget the GOP was responsible for the funding cuts for embassy security.

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                          #42
                          It's unbelievable that you libtards are upset about this guy being killed. He killed Americans. The Quds were designated a terrorist organization in 2007. Other countries also designated them as terrorists including Soleimani. He deserved to die. If the Obama admin had the balls to do it we wouldn't be having this debate because you brainwashed liberal pussy's would have been all for it. Get over yourselves. You lost an election. You're going to lose the next one. STFU and deal with it.

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                            #44
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            We had hearings before we went into Iraq and Afghanistan. See the difference? Oh, and the GOP administration lied to us about why we were going in. Call us skeptical this time.
                            No the other times. See the difference. A violation is a violation. You can’t danced around it!

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                              #45
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              How conveniently they forget the GOP was responsible for the funding cuts for embassy security.
                              How conveniently they forget how the libs ignored warnings and requests form Ambassador Stevens. Sorry we failed you! May you Rest In Peace!

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