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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Let's talk about the NRA's narrative for a minute. Their agenda is to promote gun sales. Any type of gun control, even common-sense gun control, could potentially reduce gun sales. So here's their line:

        "The people promoting gun control really want to take your guns away. Their goal is to abolish the second amendment. So you must fight any attempt to restrict gun ownership, because it would take us one step closer to their goal."

        The classic slippery slope argument, a logical fallacy. The NRA will never acknowledge the millions of people who support the second amendment but still want common sense gun laws. The NRA is on the wrong side of history. They should study the tobacco industry to see where the gun industry is headed.
        Thanks for the CNN NRA talking points that are false. There is no such thing as common sense gun control.

        You tell me which gun is safer and ar 15, Glock 40, 3030, pump shotgun, or any other gun?

        The failures are with the system. I am still amazed the Sheriff Isreal still has a job.

        Freedom is being given away because of emotions. Sounds like 1930s Germany. If you forget History you are doomed to Repeat it.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Thanks for the CNN NRA talking points that are false. There is no such thing as common sense gun control.

          You tell me which gun is safer and ar 15, Glock 40, 3030, pump shotgun, or any other gun?

          The failures are with the system. I am still amazed the Sheriff Isreal still has a job.

          Freedom is being given away because of emotions. Sounds like 1930s Germany. If you forget History you are doomed to Repeat it.

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          We will determine which weapons are ok and which ones are too powerful and too fast and too lethal by deciding what we will accept and what we will not. We will decidevto require background checks and lisencing and to fund mental health sevices and not let insureance weasel out of coverage.

          We will make out representatives comply or we will find new representatives.

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            And as for law enforcement. They of all organizations want strict gun control so put your money where your mouth is and if the right is so pro cop...give them some real respect instead of hollow platitudes and support them in their gum control efforts.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Thanks for the CNN NRA talking points that are false. There is no such thing as common sense gun control.
              The recently-passed Florida legislation is common-sense gun control. Banning high-capacity magazines would be common-sense gun control. None of these things take away our second amendment rights. You can still own guns for hunting or personal protection. Most reasonable people agree that a total gun ban would be impractical and unconstitutional.

              There is no justifiable reason for a civilian to own an assault rifle with high-capacity magazines. There just isn't. When you ask one of "those people" this question they spout logical fallacies and conspiracy theories. I've never heard a coherent answer. So let's hear yours.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The recently-passed Florida legislation is common-sense gun control. Banning high-capacity magazines would be common-sense gun control. None of these things take away our second amendment rights. You can still own guns for hunting or personal protection. Most reasonable people agree that a total gun ban would be impractical and unconstitutional.

                There is no justifiable reason for a civilian to own an assault rifle with high-capacity magazines. There just isn't. When you ask one of "those people" this question they spout logical fallacies and conspiracy theories. I've never heard a coherent answer. So let's hear yours.
                If you need an AR 15 for hunting or protection you suck at it.

                Of course law enforcement wants these weapons off the streets. The job is difficult enough as is, let along going into a situation literally out-gunned. If a shooter has to stop and re-load fewer people will get shot and law enforcement stands a chance at taking someone out. It's pretty simple stuff.

                If this trigger happy state can pass gun legislation (came up short in some things but it's a start) then there is hope for elsewhere. It's all about pressuring politicians and making it clear their jobs depend on doing what the people want. They answer to us, not lobbyists, corporations and big donors.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The recently-passed Florida legislation is common-sense gun control. Banning high-capacity magazines would be common-sense gun control. None of these things take away our second amendment rights. You can still own guns for hunting or personal protection. Most reasonable people agree that a total gun ban would be impractical and unconstitutional.

                  There is no justifiable reason for a civilian to own an assault rifle with high-capacity magazines. There just isn't. When you ask one of "those people" this question they spout logical fallacies and conspiracy theories. I've never heard a coherent answer. So let's hear yours.
                  Why are the police have reason and are justified to carry semi-automatic rifles?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Why are the police have reason and are justified to carry semi-automatic rifles?
                    Where the heck do you live that the cops are carrying around semi automatic rifles.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Why are the police have reason and are justified to carry semi-automatic rifles?
                      Because they're 1) well trained and many are ex-military; they have to practice all the time 2) they are going up against people with the same kinds of weapons. It's the brining a knife to a gun fight argument. Personally I'd prefer less fire power because I think it makes an officer more cocky, but I'm also not a cop. I won't pretend to know what it's like to go into the dangerous situations they do all the time.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Where the heck do you live that the cops are carrying around semi automatic rifles.
                        SWAT guys, that's about it. I have a relative who is SWAT in a big city. The stuff they have is off the hook. But they're cream of the crop cops, most ex military types. Fortunately they rarely actually use that fire power. Typical cops don't have any of that stuff.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Because they're 1) well trained and many are ex-military; they have to practice all the time 2) they are going up against people with the same kinds of weapons. It's the brining a knife to a gun fight argument. Personally I'd prefer less fire power because I think it makes an officer more cocky, but I'm also not a cop. I won't pretend to know what it's like to go into the dangerous situations they do all the time.
                          So, why do you think I don`t have the same right? I am well-trained, I am ex military, I practice, and I am up against criminals with the same kind of weapons.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Where the heck do you live that the cops are carrying around semi automatic rifles.
                            Florida

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              So, why do you think I don`t have the same right? I am well-trained, I am ex military, I practice, and I am up against criminals with the same kind of weapons.
                              OK Bruce Willis. Go get em!

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So, why do you think I don`t have the same right? I am well-trained, I am ex military, I practice, and I am up against criminals with the same kind of weapons.
                                This is exactly the type of person who should not have access to automatic weapons. His post makes it clear that he views the world in terms of black and white, and see himself and his AR-15 as the ultimate arbiter of who is right and wrong, and if you don't agree with him, his AR-15 will give him the back up he needs. Might make right. These are the guys who run around in the woods on the weekend wearing cammo and talking about the upcoming race war. They should not have guns because they are violence festishist.

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