Club Commitment List Accuracy Analysis

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Amen. Finally a person sees it. Lots of kids get to go and never see the field. That purgatory must suck.

That's what you want - a club/coach that helps you find the right soccer fit. WhIle many things can impact PT, a club that has many players actually playing means they helped many find their best fit. Having a "big" list means little.

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Amen. Finally a person sees it. Lots of kids get to go and never see the field. That purgatory must suck.

OP here - I'm sure it does suck and it happens A LOT. I think going in many players don't realize what the odds are. They're enamored with the school or the soccer without really being honest about the actual fit. If you target the right programs that improves your odds of having a successful career greatly, but you still have to bust your butt and get over not being the star any longer like in HS. Hopefully your club helps you find that right fit that's best for you and doesn't push you into programs that don't. In theory clubs want to avoid inappropriate commitments - it takes a long time to build a reputation and relationships with coaches and if that falls apart then there's no club.

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Amen. Finally a person sees it. Lots of kids get to go and never see the field. That purgatory must suck.

So true and no one seems to look at this. Too many simply look at placements and soccer quality but not what happens to your kid once they get there. Those of you with lots of free time, go back to current college seniors and juniors to see if they are getting playing time or even still on the team. Many previous CT "stars" have lost their luster and are no longer a top player or even starting. If you really care about your kid and they really love to play, do them a favor and think about life in college. CT is a small state.

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So true and no one seems to look at this. Too many simply look at placements and soccer quality but not what happens to your kid once they get there. Those of you with lots of free time, go back to current college seniors and juniors to see if they are getting playing time or even still on the team. Many previous CT "stars" have lost their luster and are no longer a top player or even starting. If you really care about your kid and they really love to play, do them a favor and think about life in college. CT is a small state.

Best thread evah' is the MA boys commitment threads. He tracks players all four years. Many are not playing by junior year - either cut, inured, quit, burned out, move on to their next life chapter...It should be required reading for any middle school player and parents considering a college path. If you're at the right program you vastly improve your odds of having a meaningful career.

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2018 commitments accuracy analysis

Here is the Commitment List Accuracy Analysis for Fall 2018…

As a reminder, we are using publicly available lists that are reported by they clubs themselves. In three cases (CFC, FSA, Oak) these are reported to and then published by the leagues they belong to. For Yankee, they only self-publish on their website.

The purpose of this analysis is simply a “truth-in-advertising” analysis. Claiming an ability to get your daughters recruited by a college is the PRIMARY FORM of advertising for any club. These self-reported list of commitments are easy to verify. 18-year-olds are allowed to change their minds, whether that is playing soccer in college, or even attending that college. However, that “change in mind” should happen on a statistically even basis across clubs. Any club that has a disproportionate level of inaccuracies should be viewed with a wary eye.

And here we go…

CFC
100% Accurate — 18 commitments reported, 18 verified on roster. CFC remains the most accurate club, improving slightly over last year’s 1 miss.

Oakwood
88% Accurate - 8 commitments reported, 7 verified. Oakwood improves on last years record, but with fewer total commitments reported than last year, the single miss hurts.

FSA
87% Accurate - 15 commitments reported, 13 verified. FSA moves into a virtual tie for second place from it’s bad showing last year when they had 4 unverified claims.

Yankee
83% Accurate - 12 commitments reported, 10 verified. Even though they remain in last place and take the loosest grip on the truth in reporting, Yankee did significantly improve over last year when they were an embarrassing 56% accurate.

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Quality Program Analysis

To follow on last year’s additional analysis, here is how well the 4 clubs did at putting kids at solid soccer programs. The objective criteria used is whether that college program made it to the NCAA tournament the previous season. If a historically good program failed to make it to the tourney last year, that’s just the way the ball bounces.

Yankee
20% - 2 of 10 at good programs

CFC
11% - 2 of 18 at good programs

FSA
8% - 1 of 13 at good programs

Oakwood
0% - 0 of 7 at good programs

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Here is the Commitment List Accuracy Analysis for Fall 2018…

As a reminder, we are using publicly available lists that are reported by they clubs themselves. In three cases (CFC, FSA, Oak) these are reported to and then published by the leagues they belong to. For Yankee, they only self-publish on their website.

The purpose of this analysis is simply a “truth-in-advertising” analysis. Claiming an ability to get your daughters recruited by a college is the PRIMARY FORM of advertising for any club. These self-reported list of commitments are easy to verify. 18-year-olds are allowed to change their minds, whether that is playing soccer in college, or even attending that college. However, that “change in mind” should happen on a statistically even basis across clubs. Any club that has a disproportionate level of inaccuracies should be viewed with a wary eye.

And here we go…

CFC
100% Accurate — 18 commitments reported, 18 verified on roster. CFC remains the most accurate club, improving slightly over last year’s 1 miss.

Oakwood
88% Accurate - 8 commitments reported, 7 verified. Oakwood improves on last years record, but with fewer total commitments reported than last year, the single miss hurts.

FSA
87% Accurate - 15 commitments reported, 13 verified. FSA moves into a virtual tie for second place from it’s bad showing last year when they had 4 unverified claims.

Yankee
83% Accurate - 12 commitments reported, 10 verified. Even though they remain in last place and take the loosest grip on the truth in reporting, Yankee did significantly improve over last year when they were an embarrassing 56% accurate.

If possible can we see all the schools on one page?

Good to see the accuracy is better than last year. Ow will now always be smaller because of the combined age 18/19 age group the other leagues don't have

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To follow on last year’s additional analysis, here is how well the 4 clubs did at putting kids at solid soccer programs. The objective criteria used is whether that college program made it to the NCAA tournament the previous season. If a historically good program failed to make it to the tourney last year, that’s just the way the ball bounces.

Yankee
20% - 2 of 10 at good programs

CFC
11% - 2 of 18 at good programs

FSA
8% - 1 of 13 at good programs

Oakwood
0% - 0 of 7 at good programs

Does this combine D1, D2 and D3 schools? Or is this just D1 analysis?

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Does this combine D1, D2 and D3 schools? Or is this just D1 analysis?

All three

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If possible can we see all the schools on one page?

Good to see the accuracy is better than last year. Ow will now always be smaller because of the combined age 18/19 age group the other leagues don't have

All four lists are available AND I believe this thread has an earlier post with the schools listed.

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What really matters

Has someone ever looked at what CT players are still playing by their 4th year. Crazy focus on commits when from what I see is many dropping, injury or not getting PT. Even "CT's best" are fading when they compete with top players. Tells a story if kids are going where they never should have been placed. Unless they prefer to watch.

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Has someone ever looked at what CT players are still playing by their 4th year. Crazy focus on commits when from what I see is many dropping, injury or not getting PT. Even "CT's best" are fading when they compete with top players. Tells a story if kids are going where they never should have been placed. Unless they prefer to watch.

Good idea, thanks for volunteering. Let us know what you come up with...

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Has someone ever looked at what CT players are still playing by their 4th year. Crazy focus on commits when from what I see is many dropping, injury or not getting PT. Even "CT's best" are fading when they compete with top players. Tells a story if kids are going where they never should have been placed. Unless they prefer to watch.

I don’t think a player choosing to long longer play soccer after their first year in college has anything to do with the club they played for. That would be like saying the HS guidance counselor is responsible when a student decides to transfer out of her first college to go to a different one after the first year.

Young people change their minds in college, about a whole host of topics. Life events happen that cause decisions to be made.

A club’s role is to develop the player and help them get recruited by COLLEGE COACHES who must decide if that player is right for their program. What happens after that is up to the player and the college coach.

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I don’t think a player choosing to long longer play soccer after their first year in college has anything to do with the club they played for. That would be like saying the HS guidance counselor is responsible when a student decides to transfer out of her first college to go to a different one after the first year.

Young people change their minds in college, about a whole host of topics. Life events happen that cause decisions to be made.

A club’s role is to develop the player and help them get recruited by COLLEGE COACHES who must decide if that player is right for their program. What happens after that is up to the player and the college coach.

Obviously there are many reasons why players stop playing. But clubs that over time either don't prepare players well for the rigors of college ball or don't do a good job helping players target the right programs should be avoided. Clubs whose commit lists are littered with inaccuracies should be avoided as well.

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Has someone ever looked at what CT players are still playing by their 4th year. Crazy focus on commits when from what I see is many dropping, injury or not getting PT. Even "CT's best" are fading when they compete with top players. Tells a story if kids are going where they never should have been placed. Unless they prefer to watch.

Says your obsession on where your kid goes in terms of soccer quality and what club they are in is inane. Do your kid a favor, get off this site, stop knocking other programs and focus on what is best for your kid in 4 years. Coaches can care less about college life outside of soccer. But as a responsible parent, you should.