Hope Solo - About Time

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She did not get disciplined for what she said. She got suspended because she is a train wreck and this was the last straw and they don't need her for 6 months

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How much do you think this has to do with the lawsuit?

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How much do you think this has to do with the lawsuit?

The "equal pay" lawsuit? US Soccer isn't worried about that. It's going absolutely nowhere. Until a woman makes the USMNT, there is no "equal work" being done.

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The "equal pay" lawsuit? US Soccer isn't worried about that. It's going absolutely nowhere. Until a woman makes the USMNT, there is no "equal work" being done.

Yeah you are right. The women make a hell of a lot more money than the men. Not equal at all. Using women's profits to subsidize a mediocre men's team. The american way.

For some of the women, they make huge profits outside soccer with endorsements and appearance fees and co-branding. Men - you have that wet paper towel personality of Landon Donovan appearing in a few commercials, but that's about it.

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Yeah you are right. The women make a hell of a lot more money than the men. Not equal at all. Using women's profits to subsidize a mediocre men's team. The american way.

For some of the women, they make huge profits outside soccer with endorsements and appearance fees and co-branding. Men - you have that wet paper towel personality of Landon Donovan appearing in a few commercials, but that's about it.

If the quality of the women's game can ever get high enough that the TV networks are interested then you might see their salaries go up. Until then it's all about Youtube and 500 fans in the seats for most of the league.

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Name one male athlete who is the best player at a crucial position who would be permanently suspended for conduct like Solos.

US Soccer is shameless. They did nothing when they needed her and are trying to stand on principle when it doesn't matter. That's not leadership, it's cowardice as Hope might say. Who knows, maybe it's even tactically smart like Sweden bunkering against the US and Brazil. It's still cowardly. Critcizing an opponent after a games isn't something that typically results in discipline like this.

Bingo. Certainly calling the opposing team cowards is NOT a firing type of offense. Never would happen to a male athlete.

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If the quality of the women's game can ever get high enough that the TV networks are interested then you might see their salaries go up. Until then it's all about Youtube and 500 fans in the seats for most of the league.

Ratings in US for women's national team has far exceeded the US mens team. And the target group is highly coveted by advertisers. The women's world cup US games had higher ratings than the last men's world cup in the US. That's not the case internationally, but in the US.

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Bingo. Certainly calling the opposing team cowards is NOT a firing type of offense. Never would happen to a male athlete.

Doesn't matter. She's done with the USWNT. She's too old, her play in Rio was horrendous, and they need to get PT for the next keeper. You've seen Solo for the last time in a USWNT game.

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Name one male on the men's team that wouldn't be fired for getting drunk and beating the crap out of family members. Or getting drunk with their spouse and zooming around town in the US team van.

She's washed up any way. Let her take her bad attitude to reality TV.

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Ray Rice! Heard of him.

That was already covered. If you think getting into a fight with a nephew who is (a) bigger than you, (b) not a dependent, and (c) at your house and doesn't live there is the same as a professional football player knocking out his girlfriend in an elevator and dragging her into the lobby is the same thing, then you're missing the point. They are different.

So yes. I've heard of him. Try again. Don't go to Adrian Peterson next. That's different too.

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Bingo. Certainly calling the opposing team cowards is NOT a firing type of offense. Never would happen to a male athlete.

When will all of you get this was an accumulation of bad behavior, not just a one time thing? Then add a less-than-stellar performance and her age. She's done.

"U.S. Soccer terminated the contract of goalkeeper Hope Solo on Wednesday for what it called “conduct that is counter to the organization’s principles.” The federation also said it had suspended Solo from the women’s national team for six months, but in ending her contract, it sent a strong signal that Solo — who has balanced on-field excellence with off-field controversy for more than a decade — might have played her last game for the United States."

And to reinforce that her being let go isn't just about her comments -

“Taking into consideration the past incidents involving Hope, as well as the private conversations we’ve had requiring her to conduct herself in a manner befitting a U.S. national team member, U.S. Soccer determined this is the appropriate disciplinary action,” U.S. Soccer’s president, Sunil Gulati, said in a statement.

Solo has been the starting goalkeeper for the United States since 2005 and its preferred starter in three straight World Cups and the three most recent Olympic tournaments. She has made more than 200 appearances for the team, and while her play on the field has been exceptional at times — she was voted the outstanding goalkeeper of the past two World Cups — she has caused public relations problems for herself and for U.S. Soccer away from the field.

In 2007, she was ostracized by the national team for several months after ripping its coach at the time, Greg Ryan, for starting her backup in a World Cup semifinal that the Americans lost, 4-0. At the 2012 Olympics, she took to Twitter to publicly criticize the former player Brandi Chastain, who was calling the team’s games for NBC. Then came Solo’s arrest on domestic violence charges and the van episode with her husband last year.

But with no American goalkeeper playing well enough to supplant Solo as the starter over the past decade, her coaches and U.S. Soccer have weathered each storm and continued to send Solo back into the net."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/sp...ccer.html?_r=1

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It is amazing how some of you can split hairs on domestic violence when it suits you needs and wants. However, Ray Rice punched his wife. Was never convicted. Hope Solo had more than one domestic violence incident. So why is it different? Where do you draw the line? Why should anyone ever look the other way for any reason when domestic violence has occurred. She should have been dropped from the National program when that happened and never brought back. Tell me how you justify her actions?

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Bingo. Certainly calling the opposing team cowards is NOT a firing type of offense. Never would happen to a male athlete.

Agree. This is all about retaliation for demanding equal pay for play & that Pia doesn't like Hope & has Sunil's ear. If she's not good enough, just don't put her on the roster next time. To fire her after saying the other team are cowards is completely lame & uncalled for.

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Agree. This is all about retaliation for demanding equal pay for play & that Pia doesn't like Hope & has Sunil's ear. If she's not good enough, just don't put her on the roster next time. To fire her after saying the other team are cowards is completely lame & uncalled for.

I will repeat this posted above - it isn't about her comments only

When will all of you get this was an accumulation of bad behavior, not just a one time thing? Then add a less-than-stellar performance and her age. She's done.

"U.S. Soccer terminated the contract of goalkeeper Hope Solo on Wednesday for what it called “conduct that is counter to the organization’s principles.” The federation also said it had suspended Solo from the women’s national team for six months, but in ending her contract, it sent a strong signal that Solo — who has balanced on-field excellence with off-field controversy for more than a decade — might have played her last game for the United States."

And to reinforce that her being let go isn't just about her comments -

“Taking into consideration the past incidents involving Hope, as well as the private conversations we’ve had requiring her to conduct herself in a manner befitting a U.S. national team member, U.S. Soccer determined this is the appropriate disciplinary action,” U.S. Soccer’s president, Sunil Gulati, said in a statement.

Solo has been the starting goalkeeper for the United States since 2005 and its preferred starter in three straight World Cups and the three most recent Olympic tournaments. She has made more than 200 appearances for the team, and while her play on the field has been exceptional at times — she was voted the outstanding goalkeeper of the past two World Cups — she has caused public relations problems for herself and for U.S. Soccer away from the field.

In 2007, she was ostracized by the national team for several months after ripping its coach at the time, Greg Ryan, for starting her backup in a World Cup semifinal that the Americans lost, 4-0. At the 2012 Olympics, she took to Twitter to publicly criticize the former player Brandi Chastain, who was calling the team’s games for NBC. Then came Solo’s arrest on domestic violence charges and the van episode with her husband last year.

But with no American goalkeeper playing well enough to supplant Solo as the starter over the past decade, her coaches and U.S. Soccer have weathered each storm and continued to send Solo back into the net."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/sp...ccer.html?_r=1

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It is amazing how some of you can split hairs on domestic violence when it suits you needs and wants. However, Ray Rice punched his wife. Was never convicted. Hope Solo had more than one domestic violence incident. So why is it different? Where do you draw the line? Why should anyone ever look the other way for any reason when domestic violence has occurred. She should have been dropped from the National program when that happened and never brought back. Tell me how you justify her actions?

Domestic violence is different because of the dependency element where the victim has an emotional or financial relationship with the accused; for example, a spouse, significant other or a child -- not the adult child of a sibling. The case hasn't gone to trial so nobody is looking the other way and nobody has been convicted. You're simply willing to conclude she's guilty. If the words "domestic violence" hadn't been used, it's doubtful that anyone would care. The reaction would be more like "she's a knucklehead who got into another fight at a BBQ -- who cares."