PAC 12 Coaches Poll 2016 Season

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Unless they did it this summer, neither UO or OSU have had summer "practices". Call it a bunch of girls or boys working out together under direction of the captains is sure as hell practice. Do you think the captains make up the type of practices? The first practice for D-1 women's soccer is 21 days before the first contest. The vast majority of posters here have never had a D-1 soccer athlete or they wouldn't make such stupid, ill-informed statements as if they were fact.

Angry much? The poster was answering me, and my statement was about summer school not practices...

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Unless they did it this summer, neither UO or OSU have had summer "practices". Call it a bunch of girls or boys working out together under direction of the captains is sure as hell practice. Do you think the captains make up the type of practices? The first practice for D-1 women's soccer is 21 days before the first contest. The vast majority of posters here have never had a D-1 soccer athlete or they wouldn't make such stupid, ill-informed statements as if they were fact.

UO and OSU go in late July and practice and start their pre season in August. The freshmen go in prior to the rest of the team and they are put up together in a large apartment or house.

They do this at many universities. I have one player in SEC and they started late July. Does that qualify as summer?

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UP's Smith ignores the NCAA rules and has his women's team practice most of the Summer. Supposedly it is under the control of the team captains, but he watches. Even freshmen are enrolled early in the Summer session so they can attend. So, UP does well early, fades towards end of season playing weaker WCC opponents. It works, but it's not legal.

I love ignorant posters who don't realize that all schools do this, along with having their strength and conditioning coaches perform drills and weight lifting with them. They also do a ton of testing of their bodies. Big time soccer involves a lot more than just showing up August 5 and saying "lets start practicing." And my dd doesn't go to UP, I just know this from personal experience. Trust me, my dd's coaches were peaking over at seniors practices. When Aug 5 rolls around, the coaches know a tremendous amount about the players. And this goes on at all top programs. Maybe not ones that your dd will be involved with. I'm sure Lewis and Clark has no summer workouts.

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Your kidding right? WCC is no Pacific 12.

Well to the jackass who posted this, the WCC is 5-1 against the Pac 12 so far this year with wins over USC, WSU, UW and Cal among them. Three teams picked pretty high in he conference. It's so funny how people don't know Shiite from Shinola but post as if they do. And my dd goes to a Pac 12 school not WCC so I'm not on here stating anything other than facts. Both conferences will likely send a lot of teams to the tournament this year.

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Well to the jackass who posted this, the WCC is 5-1 against the Pac 12 so far this year with wins over USC, WSU, UW and Cal among them. Three teams picked pretty high in he conference. It's so funny how people don't know Shiite from Shinola but post as if they do. And my dd goes to a Pac 12 school not WCC so I'm not on here stating anything other than facts. Both conferences will likely send a lot of teams to the tournament this year.

Easy there chief. First game of the year.

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Easy there chief. First game of the year.

Not for all of the teams. Yet another ignorant post. You probably should've comment on things you don't know about.

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Not for all of the teams. Yet another ignorant post. You probably should've comment on things you don't know about.

Troll alert

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Probably the least informative and substantiated poll ever. Just how long have the teams been practicing? How does any coach know what the actual composition of the teams might be? Look at the end of season results and compare. There will be vast changes in the order.

Probably the least informative and substantial post ever. Who gives a crap how long anyone had been practicing and most everyone knows what the teams look like, it is not like recruiting classes turn over every year, more over this is a COACHES poll, so it is not a random sampling of the masses, it is specifically the 12 people most likely to know best.

Anyway, it is very easy to see how accurate these things are and how completely wrong you are about "vast changes" in the order by the end of the season. 45 seconds of googling pulls up the pre season coaches poll from 2015 and then the final order:

Pre season Coaches poll:

Place School Points
1. Stanford (8) 114
2. UCLA (3) 111
T3. USC (1) 91
T3. California 91
5. Arizona State 78
6. Colorado 73
7. Washington 71
8. Arizona 48
9. Washington State 34
10. Utah 33
11. Oregon 31
12. Oregon State 17


How it finished:

Stanford
USC
Washington state
Cal
Arizona
Washington
Arizona State
UCLA
Utah
Oregon
Oregon State
Colorado

Pretty much spot on with the only real surprises being the ultra young UCLA squad under-performing, WSU doing the opposite, and Colorado, somehow managing to actually be worse than our local perennial doormats in Oregon and OSU.

As it pertains to the point of this thread, in our local market, our local programs suck and the coaches suck and that is not due to geography, or any other external factors, it is due to crappy recruitment both in selling the school and in identifying talent, as can be clearly seen from the success those same schools are able to achieve in plenty of other sports.

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Probably the least informative and substantial post ever. Who gives a crap how long anyone had been practicing and most everyone knows what the teams look like, it is not like recruiting classes turn over every year, more over this is a COACHES poll, so it is not a random sampling of the masses, it is specifically the 12 people most likely to know best.

Anyway, it is very easy to see how accurate these things are and how completely wrong you are about "vast changes" in the order by the end of the season. 45 seconds of googling pulls up the pre season coaches poll from 2015 and then the final order:

Pre season Coaches poll:

Place School Points
1. Stanford (8) 114
2. UCLA (3) 111
T3. USC (1) 91
T3. California 91
5. Arizona State 78
6. Colorado 73
7. Washington 71
8. Arizona 48
9. Washington State 34
10. Utah 33
11. Oregon 31
12. Oregon State 17


How it finished:

Stanford
USC
Washington state
Cal
Arizona
Washington
Arizona State
UCLA
Utah
Oregon
Oregon State
Colorado

Pretty much spot on with the only real surprises being the ultra young UCLA squad under-performing, WSU doing the opposite, and Colorado, somehow managing to actually be worse than our local perennial doormats in Oregon and OSU.

As it pertains to the point of this thread, in our local market, our local programs suck and the coaches suck and that is not due to geography, or any other external factors, it is due to crappy recruitment both in selling the school and in identifying talent, as can be clearly seen from the success those same schools are able to achieve in plenty of other sports.

Colorado had a bunch of former Eastside Timbers bootballers, hence the last place finish.

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Colorado had a bunch of former Eastside Timbers bootballers, hence the last place finish.

Pretty much the same team finished 3rd the year before.

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Easy there chief. First game of the year.

Troll alert

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Probably the least informative and substantial post ever. Who gives a crap how long anyone had been practicing and most everyone knows what the teams look like, it is not like recruiting classes turn over every year, more over this is a COACHES poll, so it is not a random sampling of the masses, it is specifically the 12 people most likely to know best.

Anyway, it is very easy to see how accurate these things are and how completely wrong you are about "vast changes" in the order by the end of the season. 45 seconds of googling pulls up the pre season coaches poll from 2015 and then the final order:

Pre season Coaches poll:

Place School Points
1. Stanford (8) 114
2. UCLA (3) 111
T3. USC (1) 91
T3. California 91
5. Arizona State 78
6. Colorado 73
7. Washington 71
8. Arizona 48
9. Washington State 34
10. Utah 33
11. Oregon 31
12. Oregon State 17


How it finished:

Stanford
USC
Washington state
Cal
Arizona
Washington
Arizona State
UCLA
Utah
Oregon
Oregon State
Colorado

Pretty much spot on with the only real surprises being the ultra young UCLA squad under-performing, WSU doing the opposite, and Colorado, somehow managing to actually be worse than our local perennial doormats in Oregon and OSU.

As it pertains to the point of this thread, in our local market, our local programs suck and the coaches suck and that is not due to geography, or any other external factors, it is due to crappy recruitment both in selling the school and in identifying talent, as can be clearly seen from the success those same schools are able to achieve in plenty of other sports.

You never know what the finish might be. Pre season polls are good for discussion, and that's it. UCLA was coming of the national championship a couple years earlier, WSU had lost their coach to USC and Colorado had been to the second round of the tournament the year before. This year, so far, USC was picked high but has lost to Santa Clara, UW was picked high and lost to Portland, Cal was picked high and lost to Pepperdine (I think, I may have the wrong school, but they lost). Now it's early so far, but every one of those results were expected to be the opposite. Right now, picking Oregon and Oregon State low seems spot on as they both have not shown much in out of conference games. And I know that the list above is from last year, but this year they both were picked to finish low.

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Where do you think Oregon colleges fall?

2016 Pac-12 Women’s Soccer Coaches Poll

1. Stanford (6) 116
2. USC (4) 112
3. California 96
4. UCLA (2) 94
5. Arizona 70
6. Washington 68
7. Washington State 65
8. Arizona State 36
9. Utah 35
10. Colorado 31
11. Oregon State 28
12. Oregon 20


I am hoping that Oregon State and Oregon surprise the coaches with a much better performance than what is predicted here.

Not a bad start for either Oregon team in the pac12; UP off to a decent start as well.

Weak early season schedule or our these teams decent?

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Not a bad start for either Oregon team in the pac12; UP off to a decent start as well.

Weak early season schedule or our these teams decent?

Oregon looks significantly better than any time in recent memory. Big program win beating a Big 12 team for the first time ever. Maybe a weak schedule? But they look aggressive and like they are actually playing to win this year.

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Oregon looks significantly better than any time in recent memory. Big program win beating a Big 12 team for the first time ever. Maybe a weak schedule? But they look aggressive and like they are actually playing to win this year.

Nebraska win looks good. Nothing else is impressive. However that's so much better than previous years. Not a lot of WNT, from either th US or other countries, on the roster, or coming up. Compared to other PAC 12 programs, they are well behind. Kat better hope for miracles.