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    The only club or program that has selected Oregon's elite class of players is the USSDA league.

    Yes, the MLS Timbers Youth Academy has cherry picked and recruited what they consider to be the best available 14 to 18 year old boys in the greater Portland and sw Washington area, even reaching to central and southern oregon for a few as well.

    We all bear witness to the tangible, dramatic impact on the residual level of play at HS Boys and Boys U15 to U18 club soccer in Oregon. Much more parity and less quality of play on the field. Not unlike the differences between an all-star team and the rest of the league, what remains after the rapture is a team that theoretically has Oregon's best players and a league for those not chosen to make do amongst themselves. For better or worse.

    Don't ever confuse that reality with the personal election of a local Oregon club(s) to join a different league. Be it the OPL, OYSA, FWRL, USYS National League or ECNL. It's real simple the local teams are choosing different types of leagues because our state has no leadership (Leaders) or vision to see the sport grow at the only level possible, at the grass roots through local organized comprehensive best level competition. A training or proving ground so to speak that prepares teams to branch out to higher level competition after they have demonstrated they are in fact Oregon's best team(s).

    Searching out other forms of competition, be it tournaments or truncated regional leagues is part of the 10 month club program ala carte menu for all states in the US. It use to be that way in Oregon.

    Nowadays having Oregon clubs joining "XYZ" league is simply what they must feel they are forced to do since this state has gone sideways with no available magnet league for the best to play in.

    Our state is a train wreck of fractured leagues with meaningless acronyms for both leagues and clubs. It's a straight Cluster&#!#. Instead of figuring out how to solve this giant hot mess, the selfish and foolish ones just elect to leave the state level of play and join another league.

    We choose the path that takes us places we really don't belong and say 'we' know what is best.

    God Bless You.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The only club or program that has selected Oregon's elite class of players is the USSDA league.

    Yes, the MLS Timbers Youth Academy has cherry picked and recruited what they consider to be the best available 14 to 18 year old boys in the greater Portland and sw Washington area, even reaching to central and southern oregon for a few as well.

    We all bear witness to the tangible, dramatic impact on the residual level of play at HS Boys and Boys U15 to U18 club soccer in Oregon. Much more parity and less quality of play on the field. Not unlike the differences between an all-star team and the rest of the league, what remains after the rapture is a team that theoretically has Oregon's best players and a league for those not chosen to make do amongst themselves. For better or worse.

    Don't ever confuse that reality with the personal election of a local Oregon club(s) to join a different league. Be it the OPL, OYSA, FWRL, USYS National League or ECNL. It's real simple the local teams are choosing different types of leagues because our state has no leadership (Leaders) or vision to see the sport grow at the only level possible, at the grass roots through local organized comprehensive best level competition. A training or proving ground so to speak that prepares teams to branch out to higher level competition after they have demonstrated they are in fact Oregon's best team(s).

    Searching out other forms of competition, be it tournaments or truncated regional leagues is part of the 10 month club program ala carte menu for all states in the US. It use to be that way in Oregon.

    Nowadays having Oregon clubs joining "XYZ" league is simply what they must feel they are forced to do since this state has gone sideways with no available magnet league for the best to play in.

    Our state is a train wreck of fractured leagues with meaningless acronyms for both leagues and clubs. It's a straight Cluster&#!#. Instead of figuring out how to solve this giant hot mess, the selfish and foolish ones just elect to leave the state level of play and join another league.

    We choose the path that takes us places we really don't belong and say 'we' know what is best.

    God Bless You.
    But we got our foam finger!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      But we got our ECNL foam finger!
      Give it a rest will you. We know you don't like ECNL. We get it!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The only club or program that has selected Oregon's elite class of players is the USSDA league.

        Yes, the MLS Timbers Youth Academy has cherry picked and recruited what they consider to be the best available 14 to 18 year old boys in the greater Portland and sw Washington area, even reaching to central and southern oregon for a few as well.

        We all bear witness to the tangible, dramatic impact on the residual level of play at HS Boys and Boys U15 to U18 club soccer in Oregon. Much more parity and less quality of play on the field. Not unlike the differences between an all-star team and the rest of the league, what remains after the rapture is a team that theoretically has Oregon's best players and a league for those not chosen to make do amongst themselves. For better or worse.

        Don't ever confuse that reality with the personal election of a local Oregon club(s) to join a different league. Be it the OPL, OYSA, FWRL, USYS National League or ECNL. It's real simple the local teams are choosing different types of leagues because our state has no leadership (Leaders) or vision to see the sport grow at the only level possible, at the grass roots through local organized comprehensive best level competition. A training or proving ground so to speak that prepares teams to branch out to higher level competition after they have demonstrated they are in fact Oregon's best team(s).

        Searching out other forms of competition, be it tournaments or truncated regional leagues is part of the 10 month club program ala carte menu for all states in the US. It use to be that way in Oregon.

        Nowadays having Oregon clubs joining "XYZ" league is simply what they must feel they are forced to do since this state has gone sideways with no available magnet league for the best to play in.

        Our state is a train wreck of fractured leagues with meaningless acronyms for both leagues and clubs. It's a straight Cluster&#!#. Instead of figuring out how to solve this giant hot mess, the selfish and foolish ones just elect to leave the state level of play and join another league.

        We choose the path that takes us places we really don't belong and say 'we' know what is best.

        God Bless You.
        Now there's a person who knows what they're talking about when they're talking about what they know!
        It's just too bad the T.Academy can't produce anything.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Give it a rest will you. We know you don't like ECNL. We get it!
          Did you even read the post?

          ECNL is just one of the unfortunate landing places. I don't care about the ECNL.

          I care about the 'state' of Oregon Soccer.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The only club or program that has selected Oregon's elite class of players is the USSDA league.

            Yes, the MLS Timbers Youth Academy has cherry picked and recruited what they consider to be the best available 14 to 18 year old boys in the greater Portland and sw Washington area, even reaching to central and southern oregon for a few as well.

            We all bear witness to the tangible, dramatic impact on the residual level of play at HS Boys and Boys U15 to U18 club soccer in Oregon. Much more parity and less quality of play on the field. Not unlike the differences between an all-star team and the rest of the league, what remains after the rapture is a team that theoretically has Oregon's best players and a league for those not chosen to make do amongst themselves. For better or worse.

            Don't ever confuse that reality with the personal election of a local Oregon club(s) to join a different league. Be it the OPL, OYSA, FWRL, USYS National League or ECNL. It's real simple the local teams are choosing different types of leagues because our state has no leadership (Leaders) or vision to see the sport grow at the only level possible, at the grass roots through local organized comprehensive best level competition. A training or proving ground so to speak that prepares teams to branch out to higher level competition after they have demonstrated they are in fact Oregon's best team(s).

            Searching out other forms of competition, be it tournaments or truncated regional leagues is part of the 10 month club program ala carte menu for all states in the US. It use to be that way in Oregon.

            Nowadays having Oregon clubs joining "XYZ" league is simply what they must feel they are forced to do since this state has gone sideways with no available magnet league for the best to play in.

            Our state is a train wreck of fractured leagues with meaningless acronyms for both leagues and clubs. It's a straight Cluster&#!#. Instead of figuring out how to solve this giant hot mess, the selfish and foolish ones just elect to leave the state level of play and join another league.

            We choose the path that takes us places we really don't belong and say 'we' know what is best.

            God Bless You.
            It is too bad it seems forbidden to talk about things like this. The state has devolved to such a level that rather than big ideas like "Oregon Soccer" everyone focuses on what is in it for them. This then leads clubs to sell to these selfish motivators.

            The worst part is individuals who get convinced they so desperately need a certain patch, but then as soccer is a team sport they decide others must do the same thing or I will not be able to.

            As irritating as the dueling talking heads became at least there was some degree of vision. Now the collective Oregon vision seems to be "I'm going to get mine so screw y'all"

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              But we got our foam finger!
              And a place to put it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The only club or program that has selected Oregon's elite class of players is the USSDA league.

                Yes, the MLS Timbers Youth Academy has cherry picked and recruited what they consider to be the best available 14 to 18 year old boys in the greater Portland and sw Washington area, even reaching to central and southern oregon for a few as well.

                We all bear witness to the tangible, dramatic impact on the residual level of play at HS Boys and Boys U15 to U18 club soccer in Oregon. Much more parity and less quality of play on the field. Not unlike the differences between an all-star team and the rest of the league, what remains after the rapture is a team that theoretically has Oregon's best players and a league for those not chosen to make do amongst themselves. For better or worse.

                Don't ever confuse that reality with the personal election of a local Oregon club(s) to join a different league. Be it the OPL, OYSA, FWRL, USYS National League or ECNL. It's real simple the local teams are choosing different types of leagues because our state has no leadership (Leaders) or vision to see the sport grow at the only level possible, at the grass roots through local organized comprehensive best level competition. A training or proving ground so to speak that prepares teams to branch out to higher level competition after they have demonstrated they are in fact Oregon's best team(s).

                Searching out other forms of competition, be it tournaments or truncated regional leagues is part of the 10 month club program ala carte menu for all states in the US. It use to be that way in Oregon.

                Nowadays having Oregon clubs joining "XYZ" league is simply what they must feel they are forced to do since this state has gone sideways with no available magnet league for the best to play in.

                Our state is a train wreck of fractured leagues with meaningless acronyms for both leagues and clubs. It's a straight Cluster&#!#. Instead of figuring out how to solve this giant hot mess, the selfish and foolish ones just elect to leave the state level of play and join another league.

                We choose the path that takes us places we really don't belong and say 'we' know what is best.

                God Bless You.
                Sometimes you can observe a lot just by watching.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Did you even read the post?

                  ECNL is just one of the unfortunate landing places. I don't care about the ECNL.

                  I care about the 'state' of Oregon Soccer.
                  Did you respond to the wrong post? Didn't you mean to respond to the "foam finger" poster?

                  Great post OP!!

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                    #10
                    Appreciate the insight

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The only club or program that has selected Oregon's elite class of players is the USSDA league.

                    Yes, the MLS Timbers Youth Academy has cherry picked and recruited what they consider to be the best available 14 to 18 year old boys in the greater Portland and sw Washington area, even reaching to central and southern oregon for a few as well.

                    We all bear witness to the tangible, dramatic impact on the residual level of play at HS Boys and Boys U15 to U18 club soccer in Oregon. Much more parity and less quality of play on the field. Not unlike the differences between an all-star team and the rest of the league, what remains after the rapture is a team that theoretically has Oregon's best players and a league for those not chosen to make do amongst themselves. For better or worse.

                    Don't ever confuse that reality with the personal election of a local Oregon club(s) to join a different league. Be it the OPL, OYSA, FWRL, USYS National League or ECNL. It's real simple the local teams are choosing different types of leagues because our state has no leadership (Leaders) or vision to see the sport grow at the only level possible, at the grass roots through local organized comprehensive best level competition. A training or proving ground so to speak that prepares teams to branch out to higher level competition after they have demonstrated they are in fact Oregon's best team(s).

                    Searching out other forms of competition, be it tournaments or truncated regional leagues is part of the 10 month club program ala carte menu for all states in the US. It use to be that way in Oregon.

                    Nowadays having Oregon clubs joining "XYZ" league is simply what they must feel they are forced to do since this state has gone sideways with no available magnet league for the best to play in.

                    Our state is a train wreck of fractured leagues with meaningless acronyms for both leagues and clubs. It's a straight Cluster&#!#. Instead of figuring out how to solve this giant hot mess, the selfish and foolish ones just elect to leave the state level of play and join another league.

                    We choose the path that takes us places we really don't belong and say 'we' know what is best.

                    God Bless You.
                    I suggest the parents and boards start to push for change for a better tomorrow. If not them, who?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I suggest the parents and boards start to push for change for a better tomorrow. If not them, who?
                      What do the parents and boards know? How and what change will they push for? Soccer was headed in the right direction for a while in Oregon. It has regressed significantly in the last year.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        What do the parents and boards know? How and what change will they push for? Soccer was headed in the right direction for a while in Oregon. It has regressed significantly in the last year.
                        I'm not so negative. Most of what your kid learns about soccer is taught at practice. That hasn't changed. Only the matches. Parents can't brag as much, but things are O.K. A team can always play other competition, even if it's not their league.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What do the parents and boards know?
                          Parents are the customers. Boards represent the seller. The situation only got screwed up when everyone started listening to the DOC's sell their snake oil.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Did you even read the post?

                            ECNL is just one of the unfortunate landing places. I don't care about the ECNL.

                            I care about the 'state' of Oregon Soccer.
                            ECNL is the best thing to ever come to Oregon as far as youth soccer in concerned.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Parents are the customers. Boards represent the seller. The situation only got screwed up when everyone started listening to the DOC's sell their snake oil.
                              Parents are the customers and also the coaches as far as TA Clubs.

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