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    Why are ECNL haters so desperate?

    After reading all of the lies and distortions and fictitious motivation I have to ask what are the haters afraid of? Are they worried that parents that have the means are going to learn what their DD is made of? Or are they afraid that just like Obamacare it will work and decimate the TA?

    #2
    I think the people putting down encl are really just screwing with the rich lake O parents. They are fun. Especially the one they call AP that gets really angry at the slightest provocation.

    Nobody really cares. At the end of the day does any of it matter?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I think the people putting down encl are really just screwing with the rich lake O parents. They are fun. Especially the one they call AP that gets really angry at the slightest provocation.

      Nobody really cares. At the end of the day does any of it matter?
      If the ECNL is successful it will have a huge impact on all of the clubs not feeding into the respective clubs. The outside clubs will lose the majority of the better and the kids whose parents who think their kids are great soccer players.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        If the ECNL is successful it will have a huge impact on all of the clubs not feeding into the respective clubs. The outside clubs will lose the majority of the better and the kids whose parents who think their kids are great soccer players.
        You no speaka English?

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          #5
          Not funny

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          You no speaka English?
          Racist. You make that joke so I can hear you I'll break your nose.

          Ciao.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Racist. You make that joke so I can hear you I'll break your nose.

            Ciao.
            Threats of physical violence can get you locked up in the central joint. Probably shouldn't do that.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Threats of physical violence can get you locked up in the central joint. Probably shouldn't do that.
              With a cell mate named Ben Dover.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If the ECNL is successful it will have a huge impact on all of the clubs not feeding into the respective clubs. The outside clubs will lose the majority of the better and the kids whose parents who think their kids are great soccer players.
                Believe that if you like...more likely after a difficult year the ECNL clubs will realize they Ned to scale back, either only one club will continue, or there will be significant changes.

                If the ECNL teams fail to separate themselves from their OPL clubs they will also continue to see stunted participation. Just like there are ECNL lovers, there are also haters, these haters largely relate to the OPL clubs from which ECNL sprang.

                We will have to wait, but success may be difficult to obtain.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  After reading all of the lies and distortions and fictitious motivation I have to ask what are the haters afraid of? Are they worried that parents that have the means are going to learn what their DD is made of? Or are they afraid that just like Obamacare it will work and decimate the TA?
                  What kind of low measures do you have to go to compare ECNL to Obamacare? This is not an assertion made by someone who really supports ECNL, it made by a hack who is trying to infiltrate himself as mindless supporter on both sides. Doesn't work and now you are a fool. Don't respond to this thread because it needs to end now because on many levels it is wrong and not worth discussing.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Believe that if you like...more likely after a difficult year the ECNL clubs will realize they Ned to scale back, either only one club will continue, or there will be significant changes.

                    If the ECNL teams fail to separate themselves from their OPL clubs they will also continue to see stunted participation. Just like there are ECNL lovers, there are also haters, these haters largely relate to the OPL clubs from which ECNL sprang.

                    We will have to wait, but success may be difficult to obtain.
                    I have friends on both sides of the fence and i have heard more grumblings and complaints about ECNL from them than from the Timbers/OYSA crowd. Frankly, on the OYSA crowd I've maybe heard one two minute discussion on the subject.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I have friends on both sides of the fence and i have heard more grumblings and complaints about ECNL from them than from the Timbers/OYSA crowd. Frankly, on the OYSA crowd I've maybe heard one two minute discussion on the subject.
                      Why would you expect them to even have an opinion? Either their DD is not that competitive of they don't have the scratch. I don't talk about the Lamborghini that I can't afford much either.

                      The really interesting thing about at least one of the haters is that he is holding his daughter out even though he can afford it because he thinks loosing will hurt her skill set and that being on a TA team is going to make her better and going to camps will provide a better opportunity to show case her skills to the college coaches.

                      The 2nd hater is just a negative S.O.B. who pontificates without ever providing any facts just his "opinion" and it never changes regardless of how wrong he is proven to be he sticks to his guns no matter what.

                      The 3rd hater is obviously affiliated with a TA club and is desperate to disparage the ECNL going so far as to insist that they are getting watered down and claiming that the majority of the best players in the locations where they exist are not playing for those teams. He clings to the recruiting "history" he knows and ignores the changes that have occurred since the arrival of ECNL and the growing dominance of the ECNL on college rosters and the process in general. And of course he is an expert on the ECNL even though the only ECNL games he has ever watched were when WPFC plays Crossfire for the NWCL Championships in nearly every age group.

                      The 4th hater, who could also be the 3rd hater but it's hard to tell, completely ignores the value of practicing more against better players and playing better competition. He insists that wins are a measure of player development. He assumes that players skill sets are static and do not improve over the course of a season. I wonder what Landon Donovan would tell him about his days stashed on the Montana ODP team?

                      Oh well the haters are gonna hate regardless. A years history of talking about the ECNL practically guarantees they will attack me personally all the while failing to address any of the claims or facts presented because that's all they ever have!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Why would you expect them to even have an opinion? Either their DD is not that competitive of they don't have the scratch. I don't talk about the Lamborghini that I can't afford much either.

                        The really interesting thing about at least one of the haters is that he is holding his daughter out even though he can afford it because he thinks loosing will hurt her skill set and that being on a TA team is going to make her better and going to camps will provide a better opportunity to show case her skills to the college coaches.

                        The 2nd hater is just a negative S.O.B. who pontificates without ever providing any facts just his "opinion" and it never changes regardless of how wrong he is proven to be he sticks to his guns no matter what.

                        The 3rd hater is obviously affiliated with a TA club and is desperate to disparage the ECNL going so far as to insist that they are getting watered down and claiming that the majority of the best players in the locations where they exist are not playing for those teams. He clings to the recruiting "history" he knows and ignores the changes that have occurred since the arrival of ECNL and the growing dominance of the ECNL on college rosters and the process in general. And of course he is an expert on the ECNL even though the only ECNL games he has ever watched were when WPFC plays Crossfire for the NWCL Championships in nearly every age group.

                        The 4th hater, who could also be the 3rd hater but it's hard to tell, completely ignores the value of practicing more against better players and playing better competition. He insists that wins are a measure of player development. He assumes that players skill sets are static and do not improve over the course of a season. I wonder what Landon Donovan would tell him about his days stashed on the Montana ODP team?

                        Oh well the haters are gonna hate regardless. A years history of talking about the ECNL practically guarantees they will attack me personally all the while failing to address any of the claims or facts presented because that's all they ever have!


                        I think you forgot the guy who just wants to bait the extremely sensitive and insecure ECNL parents. Because they take the bait ever single time.

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                          #13
                          Having two ECNL teams and a thorns academy will really water down the talent levels.

                          Losing a lot of games at ECNL doesn't have to be a bad thing. It can be a real world lesson on how to keep composure under hard times.

                          There's a good chance that if you want to travel with your dd, you could spend $12000 per year on ECNL.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Why would you expect them to even have an opinion? Either their DD is not that competitive of they don't have the scratch. I don't talk about the Lamborghini that I can't afford much either.

                            The really interesting thing about at least one of the haters is that he is holding his daughter out even though he can afford it because he thinks loosing will hurt her skill set and that being on a TA team is going to make her better and going to camps will provide a better opportunity to show case her skills to the college coaches.

                            The 2nd hater is just a negative S.O.B. who pontificates without ever providing any facts just his "opinion" and it never changes regardless of how wrong he is proven to be he sticks to his guns no matter what.

                            The 3rd hater is obviously affiliated with a TA club and is desperate to disparage the ECNL going so far as to insist that they are getting watered down and claiming that the majority of the best players in the locations where they exist are not playing for those teams. He clings to the recruiting "history" he knows and ignores the changes that have occurred since the arrival of ECNL and the growing dominance of the ECNL on college rosters and the process in general. And of course he is an expert on the ECNL even though the only ECNL games he has ever watched were when WPFC plays Crossfire for the NWCL Championships in nearly every age group.

                            The 4th hater, who could also be the 3rd hater but it's hard to tell, completely ignores the value of practicing more against better players and playing better competition. He insists that wins are a measure of player development. He assumes that players skill sets are static and do not improve over the course of a season. I wonder what Landon Donovan would tell him about his days stashed on the Montana ODP team?

                            Oh well the haters are gonna hate regardless. A years history of talking about the ECNL practically guarantees they will attack me personally all the while failing to address any of the claims or facts presented because that's all they ever have!
                            What claims or facts have you presented? You seem to think you know anonymous posters but so what? You haven't responded to anything either except trying to imply some motivations to people you don't know.

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                              #15
                              New to the converstation I see

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              What claims or facts have you presented? You seem to think you know anonymous posters but so what? You haven't responded to anything either except trying to imply some motivations to people you don't know.
                              I can tell you are new to the conversation because if you had been following along since the Anti/Haters have geared up their attacks in May you would have had the chance to read hard facts about the number of ECNL players on the rosters of the top college programs and the dominance of ECNL players on the women's Jr. National Teams.

                              You would have also had a chance to read the first hand experience from multiple parents whose DD played ECNL with WPFC or Crossfire and learned about their experienced costs and the recruiting results of the 2013's, 2014's and 2015's where 80-90% of the players were offered college positions. (news flash the team websites are not always accurate).

                              You would have also seen detailed break downs on the cost of the trips requiring Airline flights compared to the sky is falling numbers thrown around by the haters.

                              You also would have had the chance to read detail breakdowns of the cost per game and cost per quality game of the ECNL 17's vs, the Academy.

                              You would have also read articles from college coaches who talk about the ECNL and how it is providing a opportunity for more ladies to play at a high level.

                              So while the post above did not cite the articles and cost breakdowns it was a summary of the previously published information about costs, game value and how the college recruiting and national team process looks today and how the landscape has changed in the last 5 years.

                              ALL of these things have been either ignored or dismissed by roughly 3 haters. Now its quite possible it could be just one hater but there seems to be three distinct writing styles of which who are TA centric. And yes there are one or more TROLLS who are here just to bait the ECNL supporters.

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