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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Some is the key word to the above post. Some players. Not all. Some. ECNL parents, pay attention to this word. Some. Not all. Some of your precious dd's are good players. Not all of them are however. Don't cry to the world when yours doesn't get much college attention.
    Very true. Only some will benefit. And will subsidize the cost for those of us who WILL benefit.

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      #32
      So you can look into the lives of players and families and decide who benefits and who doesn't? Subsidize for who? Training fees are 2,000 and players train. Not sure where you are going with this post.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        So you can look into the lives of players and families and decide who benefits and who doesn't? Subsidize for who? Training fees are 2,000 and players train. Not sure where you are going with this post.
        So you don't think training fees would be higher if fewer players came out and played on the teams? Yes, it's pretty obvious the ones who truly benefit and those who don't.

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          #34
          No its not obvious. The clubs that were granted ECNL consistently have had good girls programs. Enough to field reserve teams except for U18. I am still sticking with my statement that you have no idea who benefits or doesn't in youth soccer. Benefits for reserve players may be commitment to a sport, staying fit and playing the game they obviously love for continuing to play club in the HS years.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            No its not obvious. The clubs that were granted ECNL consistently have had good girls programs. Enough to field reserve teams except for U18. I am still sticking with my statement that you have no idea who benefits or doesn't in youth soccer. Benefits for reserve players may be commitment to a sport, staying fit and playing the game they obviously love for continuing to play club in the HS years.
            Those that haven't ended up going to college to play soccer are ones that wouldn't have benefitted. I know that those "consistently good girls" programs have not always sent their entire team on to college and that is likely to not change. Many parents think that their daughters are much better than they really are. ECNL is going to magnify that.

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              #36
              Originally posted by unregistered View Post
              those that haven't ended up going to college to play soccer are ones that wouldn't have benefitted. I know that those "consistently good girls" programs have not always sent their entire team on to college and that is likely to not change. Many parents think that their daughters are much better than they really are. Ecnl is going to magnify that.
              bingo!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Honestly I was able to get out for the first time and watch a couple of the local ECNL teams play each other recently. Besides a "referee" issue where a couple teams did not even get to play what I saw was impressive by some but not every player and what I think it boils down too is that we approach soccer difference in this country, we price some really good players out from families the can barely afford a recreational program. If we are ever going to truly be a soccer nation we need to find away to turn this upside down and reach all kids. MLS is a business, has no interest in seeing our national teams succeed or working to help costs in the youth ranks either. Just backwards really.
                Very true, why are clubs paying Timbers to play in their leagues and state cup? Shouldn't the Timbers be working to find a solution to reduce costs instead of increasing them?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Very true, why are clubs paying Timbers to play in their leagues and state cup? Shouldn't the Timbers be working to find a solution to reduce costs instead of increasing them?
                  OYSA doesn't have $600K in slush funds that they milked from their members over the years to help offset costs. Since socialism abounds here in Oregon, OPL should use that money for all leagues to help offset costs. Or maybe install new infrastructure.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Those that haven't ended up going to college to play soccer are ones that wouldn't have benefitted. I know that those "consistently good girls" programs have not always sent their entire team on to college and that is likely to not change. Many parents think that their daughters are much better than they really are. ECNL is going to magnify that.
                    Don't tell this to a bunch of the girls who are going to San Diego, they still have hopes of playing in college.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      OYSA doesn't have $600K in slush funds that they milked from their members over the years to help offset costs. Since socialism abounds here in Oregon, OPL should use that money for all leagues to help offset costs. Or maybe install new infrastructure.
                      OYSA would have a lot more money if they didn't have such a huge payroll and expense accounts. They've staffed up and travelled considerably since they aligned with the Timbers cash cow.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        OYSA would have a lot more money if they didn't have such a huge payroll and expense accounts. They've staffed up and travelled considerably since they aligned with the Timbers cash cow.



                        Have you seen how much cash ECNL is making? Its like a cash geyser. They should cut costs and they would still be ridiculously profitable.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Have you seen how much cash ECNL is making? Its like a cash geyser. They should cut costs and they would still be ridiculously profitable.
                          Divide ECNL's cash reserves by 50 states and you'll find that OYSA is bilking you out if a lot more money than ECNL ever could.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Divide ECNL's cash reserves by 50 states and you'll find that OYSA is bilking you out if a lot more money than ECNL ever could.
                            The encl is making a lot of money but that is none of your business. So is Mercedes Benz but they aren't cutting the price so you can afford. Get over it.

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                              #44
                              ECNL has made hundreds of thousands in free profit per year but that's nothing if you divide by the number of people in the US. Or if you compare to the profit that Apple makes in a year. It's nothing.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                ECNL has made hundreds of thousands in free profit per year but that's nothing if you divide by the number of people in the US. Or if you compare to the profit that Apple makes in a year. It's nothing.
                                The point you so obliviously miss is you have little ground to call out OYSA for what it is earning and it's expenses when you are a part of the most expensive program in the state. OYSA at least uses the money earned to spread out to everyone's benefit who plays with them…ECNL puts that money into two clubs, and very likely the pockets of two DOC's...

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