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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    That is an uniformed answer. Have you seen the current U14/U13 DA team. They have several kids that are tiny. Technical but tiny. They pick kids they think have potential.
    Which DA team are you talking about?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It should all funnel down, the pool of elite should get smaller each year, especially in a state the size of Oregon (Portland)
      DA will be funneled down at u14 with the top kids in Timbers DA playing in Washington league. Kids from other clubs that are DA and non-DA will sprinkle over those kids at u15. All the rest will go back to their old clubs.

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        My concern is it will be the same clubs with same crappy coaches practicing 3 days a week instead of 2, and playing against the same teams in OYSA. Is that considered DA? Or are these DA clubs bringing in new coaches that are specific to DA player development? Will the teams play in a DA league that includes teams from WA, ID, CA?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My concern is it will be the same clubs with same crappy coaches practicing 3 days a week instead of 2, and playing against the same teams in OYSA. Is that considered DA? Or are these DA clubs bringing in new coaches that are specific to DA player development? Will the teams play in a DA league that includes teams from WA, ID, CA?
          Same club coaches but following a DA curriculum for those DA kids. The six Oregon DA teams will just be playing each other for the year. That is why Timbers is playing an Oregon 04 & 05 DA team in Washington because they want their top 20 in each age group playing better competition.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Same club coaches but following a DA curriculum for those DA kids. The six Oregon DA teams will just be playing each other for the year. That is why Timbers is playing an Oregon 04 & 05 DA team in Washington because they want their top 20 in each age group playing better competition.
            If the DA curriculum is better why don't the clubs just switch all their teams to the DA curriculum?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If the DA curriculum is better why don't the clubs just switch all their teams to the DA curriculum?
              This is the million dollar question.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If the DA curriculum is better why don't the clubs just switch all their teams to the DA curriculum?
                Because they have been getting away with charging more money for non-DA programs that only offer weak practices two nights a week and no futsal.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If the DA curriculum is better why don't the clubs just switch all their teams to the DA curriculum?
                  Because you need curriculum AND better coaching. Most GDA clubs will have the same coaches they have currently. There isn't this huge pool of highly qualified coaches waiting in the wings to coach GDA. There wasn't with BDA either, although at least with the MLS clubs those teams had more professional coaching from the get go. BDA has been around nearly ten years, but a study done by USSF two years ago showed a huge number of coaches still hadn't reached their required licensure. And, as we know, licensure is no guarantee of good coaching. Nor is "curriculum." There are growing complaints around BDA that teams/players are becoming too robotic and there is less creativity on the field.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Because you need curriculum AND better coaching. Most GDA clubs will have the same coaches they have currently. There isn't this huge pool of highly qualified coaches waiting in the wings to coach GDA. There wasn't with BDA either, although at least with the MLS clubs those teams had more professional coaching from the get go. BDA has been around nearly ten years, but a study done by USSF two years ago showed a huge number of coaches still hadn't reached their required licensure. And, as we know, licensure is no guarantee of good coaching. Nor is "curriculum." There are growing complaints around BDA that teams/players are becoming too robotic and there is less creativity on the field.
                    Thank you for providing some reason and truth to this board.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Because you need curriculum AND better coaching. Most GDA clubs will have the same coaches they have currently. There isn't this huge pool of highly qualified coaches waiting in the wings to coach GDA. There wasn't with BDA either, although at least with the MLS clubs those teams had more professional coaching from the get go. BDA has been around nearly ten years, but a study done by USSF two years ago showed a huge number of coaches still hadn't reached their required licensure. And, as we know, licensure is no guarantee of good coaching. Nor is "curriculum." There are growing complaints around BDA that teams/players are becoming too robotic and there is less creativity on the field.
                      All six Oregon DA clubs are coaching robotic play. I guess at U15 Timbers will pick the best of the robots, or the fastest/strongest players, or pick up creative players from smaller boutique outlier clubs.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        All six Oregon DA clubs are coaching robotic play. I guess at U15 Timbers will pick the best of the robots, or the fastest/strongest players, or pick up creative players from smaller boutique outlier clubs.
                        You are a tool. So easy to make a negative comment like that.

                        What they are teaching is system of play and basics. Position balance possession. Since you are the expert, How would you teach creativity. I don't expect an answer from you because you cant teach a player to play like Messi or Neymar. It is something special. But even those players were taught the basics.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You are a tool. So easy to make a negative comment like that.

                          What they are teaching is system of play and basics. Position balance possession. Since you are the expert, How would you teach creativity. I don't expect an answer from you because you cant teach a player to play like Messi or Neymar. It is something special. But even those players were taught the basics.
                          He is, in a sense, correct. The DA system is rather one dimensional. There are certainly players who are naturally creative, but if you never train finite individual technical ability and just concentrate on spacing and connectivity you get a team that can pass all day long but are unable to compete against teams who train both holistically and individually. Balance...

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            He is, in a sense, correct. The DA system is rather one dimensional. There are certainly players who are naturally creative, but if you never train finite individual technical ability and just concentrate on spacing and connectivity you get a team that can pass all day long but are unable to compete against teams who train both holistically and individually. Balance...
                            What makes you think some of the DA clubs haven't been working on individual skill and creativity? It is not an either/or.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              What makes you think some of the DA clubs haven't been working on individual skill and creativity? It is not an either/or.
                              Because I've watched their practices. And know the kids. And the coaches. And the parents.

                              Im not saying its a bad system - I'm saying its a system designed around an Americanized training philosophy that hasn't proven very successful on the international level when compared to many parts of the world because its a one dimensional vision. I will say at least it builds from the back and isn't boot ball...so thats a plus.

                              The DA system is meant to find the one player in 1000 that can move up the ladder and odds are - he (or she) is getting separate technical training beyond the curriculum.

                              DA is simply a strainer for clubs and owners...who have zero interest in the development of the group - but simply the exploitation of the many to find the one.

                              And if I'm wrong - what are some clubs not playing their best players in DA?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                He is, in a sense, correct. The DA system is rather one dimensional. There are certainly players who are naturally creative, but if you never train finite individual technical ability and just concentrate on spacing and connectivity you get a team that can pass all day long but are unable to compete against teams who train both holistically and individually. Balance...
                                DA is not the place to teach technique: that's to be done on own or in unstructured play on the side.

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