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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Iceland went all in... the entire country, on soccer development. They built indoor facilities all over the country so players wouldn't have to travel far and could play year round. Those facilities are not "For Profit" like Forekicks and others here... the players can actually use them without having to pay $100's of dollars for an hour of field time.

    Iceland also went all in on high-level licensing for all youth soccer coaches. Even the youngest kids just starting out in soccer are now developed by the equivalent of US Soccer B level coaches. 30% of Iceland's coaches are FIFA A-licensed. This ensures that even from the youngest age, coaches are competent in the teaching the game and the skills necessary to excel in the game.
    Exactly. It's the coaching, starting at the youngest ages. "management" made a commitment and made it happen. Our kids start with well meaning but poorly trained (if at all) volunteer coaches. Even at the highest levels many coaches are not well trained, and kids don't get those better coaches until they're much older. Frequency of training is also an issue, but I think you'll be hard pressed to convince typical players/families to train even more than they already are. 99.5% aren't interested in a pro path, just college. It really should be split off, possibly as a residency program, for the small minority who have the skills and drive to try for a professional path. Let the rest play HS if they want and high level soccer, play in college.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Exactly. It's the coaching, starting at the youngest ages. "management" made a commitment and made it happen. Our kids start with well meaning but poorly trained (if at all) volunteer coaches. Even at the highest levels many coaches are not well trained, and kids don't get those better coaches until they're much older. Frequency of training is also an issue, but I think you'll be hard pressed to convince typical players/families to train even more than they already are. 99.5% aren't interested in a pro path, just college. It really should be split off, possibly as a residency program, for the small minority who have the skills and drive to try for a professional path. Let the rest play HS if they want and high level soccer, play in college.
      Will you people shut up about the lack of early age training.
      Most, if not all, clubs and kids are fully engrossed by age 8. Academies are available at all clubs and some now have programs for even younger ages. There is no shortage of reputable training opportunities at almost any age.
      There is no concrete evidence that there is a huge advantage to having 4 yr olds train with A license coaches, even in our new favorite country, Iceland.
      As for A license coaches teaching the 5 yr olds, complete and total overkill. College professors are not teaching 1+1 math.
      We spend more time whining about how we suck and looking for someone to blame than training.
      Here is what EVERYBODY ignores-NO KID PLAYS pickup or non-organized ball. Every expert in the world relates the importance of that aspect-EVERY EXPERT. Your kid does not live with a ball at their feet every minute they can, because they have no minute.
      That is your fault FOR SCHEDULING THE LIVES OF THE BRATS for every waking moment.
      Just let them play the game and then provide training when and where appropriate.
      Find an empty field, yard or parking lot, grab your kid and some friends and have at it.
      IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!!!

      Regards,
      Head of Icelandic youth football
      .

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Will you people shut up about the lack of early age training.
        Most, if not all, clubs and kids are fully engrossed by age 8. Academies are available at all clubs and some now have programs for even younger ages. There is no shortage of reputable training opportunities at almost any age.
        There is no concrete evidence that there is a huge advantage to having 4 yr olds train with A license coaches, even in our new favorite country, Iceland.
        As for A license coaches teaching the 5 yr olds, complete and total overkill. College professors are not teaching 1+1 math.
        We spend more time whining about how we suck and looking for someone to blame than training.
        Here is what EVERYBODY ignores-NO KID PLAYS pickup or non-organized ball. Every expert in the world relates the importance of that aspect-EVERY EXPERT. Your kid does not live with a ball at their feet every minute they can, because they have no minute.
        That is your fault FOR SCHEDULING THE LIVES OF THE BRATS for every waking moment.
        Just let them play the game and then provide training when and where appropriate.
        Find an empty field, yard or parking lot, grab your kid and some friends and have at it.
        IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!!!

        Regards,
        Head of Icelandic youth football
        .
        Who pays for the youth soccer programs?
        Is it part of the country’s tax system?

        If so, can’t see that working here

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

          Will you people shut up about the lack of early age training.
          Most, if not all, clubs and kids are fully engrossed by age 8. Academies are available at all clubs and some now have programs for even younger ages. There is no shortage of reputable training opportunities at almost any age.
          There is no concrete evidence that there is a huge advantage to having 4 yr olds train with A license coaches, even in our new favorite country, Iceland.
          As for A license coaches teaching the 5 yr olds, complete and total overkill. College professors are not teaching 1+1 math.
          We spend more time whining about how we suck and looking for someone to blame than training.
          Here is what EVERYBODY ignores-NO KID PLAYS pickup or non-organized ball. Every expert in the world relates the importance of that aspect-EVERY EXPERT. Your kid does not live with a ball at their feet every minute they can, because they have no minute.
          That is your fault FOR SCHEDULING THE LIVES OF THE BRATS for every waking moment.
          Just let them play the game and then provide training when and where appropriate.
          Find an empty field, yard or parking lot, grab your kid and some friends and have at it.
          IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!!!

          Regards,
          Head of Icelandic youth football
          .
          Who pays for the youth soccer programs?
          Is it part of the country’s tax system?

          If so, can’t see that working here
          #1. European Academies pay for youth soccer programs by developing top quality players and selling or playing them (v gearing upper class kids up for dartmouth)

          #2. Top flight US talents should be in DA, preferably MLS. Because US doesnt allow payment for players, their training is of little consequence to the academies, other than minor reputation. Even then, there is no relegation so they have nothing to lose by maintaining mediocrity.

          #3. Clubs are secondary and should be used to develop the best talents seeking college. Instead, it is the pay-to-play clubs raising $ for the lowest income brackets who would most likely go pro instead of becoming white collar professionals.

          #4. HS players/coaches are completely behind any ability to compete at a world level. It is for sheer enjoyment and camaraderie. There is no ability to develop there unless private / parental professional ties exist. - Anyone on this thread thinking pro soccer players could possibly come from HS are under grave misconception.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
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            #2)Kids in DA are going to college , most to become CEOs, Engineers and Doctors - not pros
            What??? Boys on my son's team *might* graduate from Bunker Hill CC.

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              #21
              Massachusetts own

              https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ge...in-u-s-soccer/

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                #22
                what a mess - 8 candidates. If they're stupid enough to elect Solo then US Soccer may as well hang it up now.

                http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/unit...to-join-forces

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                  #23
                  Cordeiro wins with 68% of the vote

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                    #24
                    no change

                    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/...cer-federation

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Cordeiro wins with 68% of the vote
                      On third ballot

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                        #26
                        Super bummed and sad for the future of US Soccer. The status quo won.

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                          #27
                          A semi retired investment banker running soccer. Oh that should work well.

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                            #28
                            There were too many candidates for a potentially successful change candidate to emerge. Similar in some ways to the GOP primary. There, there were too many insider/establishment candidates and the one agent of change (for better or worse) was able to stand out, here you had two insiders and too many outsiders. It was clear from the jump that Cordeiro or Carter was going to win. Now if all of the change candidates had coalesced around a single candidate, maybe someone could have had a chance to really make some traction. None of the players were really qualified to run an organization like the USSF, and Winograd and Gans got lost in the shuffle.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              There were too many candidates for a potentially successful change candidate to emerge. Similar in some ways to the GOP primary. There, there were too many insider/establishment candidates and the one agent of change (for better or worse) was able to stand out, here you had two insiders and too many outsiders. It was clear from the jump that Cordeiro or Carter was going to win. Now if all of the change candidates had coalesced around a single candidate, maybe someone could have had a chance to really make some traction. None of the players were really qualified to run an organization like the USSF, and Winograd and Gans got lost in the shuffle.
                              It was not clear from the jump that Cordeiro or Carter was going to win. How did you know how they were going to vote? No one did. It was not until Feb 8 when the MLS and NWSL voting delegates announced that 20% of the overall vote in US Soccer election would go to Kathy Carter. This was the first real indicator that the status quo (either Cordiero or Carter) was going to be the pick.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It was not clear from the jump that Cordeiro or Carter was going to win. How did you know how they were going to vote? No one did. It was not until Feb 8 when the MLS and NWSL voting delegates announced that 20% of the overall vote in US Soccer election would go to Kathy Carter. This was the first real indicator that the status quo (either Cordiero or Carter) was going to be the pick.
                                Fact check. Pro Council had 24.1 % of the votes. They were always going to support the SUM and Gulati candidate Kathy Carter. With Pro Councils 24.1% in her pocket she only need 27% to win.

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