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    ECNL = Failing US Grassroots Movement

    The ECNL was formed to be one stop shopping for college. The United Stayes Soccer Federation said this grassroots movement would eleiminate pay-for-play model yet they failed to address a pay-for-play league. ECNL doesn’t want what’s right for DA Academies and the potential for regional soccer leagues with promotion and relegation. ECNL want the $$$, and the dream is college soccer which is parents hot button. This league and college mode is all that’s wrong with US becoming a World Cup Champion or even a World Powerhouse in Soccer.

    The Federation should just drop the hammer and only sanction leagues with a promotion relegation model, everyone else is a rougue league. Leverage ODP and National Training Centers as a means to ending Pay-For-Play Leagues.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The ECNL was formed to be one stop shopping for college. The United Stayes Soccer Federation said this grassroots movement would eleiminate pay-for-play model yet they failed to address a pay-for-play league. ECNL doesn’t want what’s right for DA Academies and the potential for regional soccer leagues with promotion and relegation. ECNL want the $$$, and the dream is college soccer which is parents hot button. This league and college mode is all that’s wrong with US becoming a World Cup Champion or even a World Powerhouse in Soccer.

    The Federation should just drop the hammer and only sanction leagues with a promotion relegation model, everyone else is a rougue league. Leverage ODP and National Training Centers as a means to ending Pay-For-Play Leagues.
    Just wow.

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      #3
      I get it, USSF should try and impose controls over free market forces. Try and dampen demand. Sounds like a great idea, who cares what players and families want.


      And how will you fill the ranks of college soccer rosters?
      Forced soccer labor camps?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The ECNL was formed to be one stop shopping for college. The United Stayes Soccer Federation said this grassroots movement would eleiminate pay-for-play model yet they failed to address a pay-for-play league. ECNL doesn’t want what’s right for DA Academies and the potential for regional soccer leagues with promotion and relegation. ECNL want the $$$, and the dream is college soccer which is parents hot button. This league and college mode is all that’s wrong with US becoming a World Cup Champion or even a World Powerhouse in Soccer.

        The Federation should just drop the hammer and only sanction leagues with a promotion relegation model, everyone else is a rougue league. Leverage ODP and National Training Centers as a means to ending Pay-For-Play Leagues.
        I think we just found out that USSF doesn’t own girls soccer.

        Please walk us through exactly how the USSF and specifically the DA is helping the men’s game. The DA is coming up on a decade of existence so I’d ask you to use the current men’s national team in your illustration.

        Did the DA have a role in their failure to qualify for the biggest event in the world?

        Locally here, we’ve seen that 99% of our players are simply looking to continue on to college soccer. This is the reason that OW struggles to field teams and the vast majority of top players in CT are not at OW.

        Girls Academy is dead man walking in CT

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The ECNL was formed to be one stop shopping for college. The United Stayes Soccer Federation said this grassroots movement would eleiminate pay-for-play model yet they failed to address a pay-for-play league. ECNL doesn’t want what’s right for DA Academies and the potential for regional soccer leagues with promotion and relegation. ECNL want the $$$, and the dream is college soccer which is parents hot button. This league and college mode is all that’s wrong with US becoming a World Cup Champion or even a World Powerhouse in Soccer.

          The Federation should just drop the hammer and only sanction leagues with a promotion relegation model, everyone else is a rougue league. Leverage ODP and National Training Centers as a means to ending Pay-For-Play Leagues.
          The gda is pay to play. In fact, it is pay a lot to play.

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            #6
            Everyone wants to play for the US National Team so the path that they develop should be embraced by all leagues. ECNL built a boys league to compete with DA and leveraged ability to play in High School.

            I think the fact college coaches are involved in ECNL or have Finacial gain in this league should be a NCAA violation.

            Unlike other sports the pathway to Professional soccer or National Team isn’t NCAA. It needs to be the developmental Academies. Until the US is ready to take over a promotion/relegation regional league and make those leagues the only way to get into ODP and Training Centers the youth model will continue to be pay-for-play.

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              #7
              And how will you fill the ranks of college soccer rosters? Who cares!!!
              Why are we worrying about College Soccer, no other country does. This is about a this Country winning a World Cup. I would strip all State Programs ODP and Training Centers of College Coaches, give those opportunities to the Academies as they should have first opportunities with these players.

              Forced soccer labor camps?
              Spoken like a true ECNL coach! If States took ODP or Regional Training Centers away from College Coaches it would effect them incredibly. However that’s the “key” to fixing our youth pay for play model, leverage the leagues and the pathway.

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                #8
                I've no issue with USSF being the governing body for the national youth and NTs. They can even run their own small league geared towards that, preferably run on their own to take $making clubs out of the process (and make it free to all if you make it to that level). But their goals are very different than that of most soccer players - not even in terms of college but just to play the game, learn and have fun doing it. What USSF thinks has to be done for the NT isn't always in line with 99.9% of the rest of US youth players. The calendar change is case in point. They should have only done it for DA but left everyone else grade based. USSF can work with other organizations for training and curriculum and scouting, but let the clubs do their thing and USSF do their own.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Everyone wants to play for the US National Team so the path that they develop should be embraced by all leagues. ECNL built a boys league to compete with DA and leveraged ability to play in High School.

                  I think the fact college coaches are involved in ECNL or have Finacial gain in this league should be a NCAA violation.

                  Unlike other sports the pathway to Professional soccer or National Team isn’t NCAA. It needs to be the developmental Academies. Until the US is ready to take over a promotion/relegation regional league and make those leagues the only way to get into ODP and Training Centers the youth model will continue to be pay-for-play.
                  You are out of your mind. Youth sports are driven from the bottom up because that is where the money comes from. USSF could create your and system and guess what - they would find they dont have many customers to play in it. You cant force people to pay for something they do not want.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The ECNL was formed to be one stop shopping for college. The United Stayes Soccer Federation said this grassroots movement would eleiminate pay-for-play model yet they failed to address a pay-for-play league. ECNL doesn’t want what’s right for DA Academies and the potential for regional soccer leagues with promotion and relegation. ECNL want the $$$, and the dream is college soccer which is parents hot button. This league and college mode is all that’s wrong with US becoming a World Cup Champion or even a World Powerhouse in Soccer.

                    The Federation should just drop the hammer and only sanction leagues with a promotion relegation model, everyone else is a rougue league. Leverage ODP and National Training Centers as a means to ending Pay-For-Play Leagues.
                    ECNL=great for the team (most parents aren't drinking the USWNT kool aid).
                    GDA= great for the %1.

                    It's pretty simple math, sir.
                    Keep on blaming and continue to sink on that GDA ship. USSF will take any %1 if it HELPS them get better not matter the league.
                    The USWNT is still a powerhouse, the men have never been and the DA has been active for a decade. Hows that working out?

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                      #11
                      Frustration is building with CT’s GDA club as they failed to add any ECNL players to their rosters. Consumers know what they want. They want to enjoy their high school playing days, compete in a high quality club league and get recruited to play in college. ECNL offers what the consumers want. No one gives a crap about the US Soccer federation!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The ECNL was formed to be one stop shopping for college. The United Stayes Soccer Federation said this grassroots movement would eleiminate pay-for-play model yet they failed to address a pay-for-play league. ECNL doesn’t want what’s right for DA Academies and the potential for regional soccer leagues with promotion and relegation. ECNL want the $$$, and the dream is college soccer which is parents hot button. This league and college mode is all that’s wrong with US becoming a World Cup Champion or even a World Powerhouse in Soccer.

                        The Federation should just drop the hammer and only sanction leagues with a promotion relegation model, everyone else is a rougue league. Leverage ODP and National Training Centers as a means to ending Pay-For-Play Leagues.

                        Here is where your logic fails you. 1) No one is forced to play on a team. 2) Where do you propose the money comes from to find these programs and leagues? Do you work for free? If not, you should before you come in spouting more of your drivel, you self righteous pompous dolt.

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                          #13
                          There's a place for GDA. It needs time to marry up supply vs demand. Right now there's too much supply for the true demand out there. Big definitely isn't always best. If USSF could accept that they could make it what it was intended to be.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            There's a place for GDA. It needs time to marry up supply vs demand. Right now there's too much supply for the true demand out there. Big definitely isn't always best. If USSF could accept that they could make it what it was intended to be.
                            Agreed, and that place is the TOP of the soccer pyramid. ECNL parents cannot handle that, they actually begin acting like rogue-hosts from West World, love it...hahahha

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Agreed, and that place is the TOP of the soccer pyramid. ECNL parents cannot handle that, they actually begin acting like rogue-hosts from West World, love it...hahahha
                              No the problem is the USSF tried to make the top too big for what the demand and really the quality is that's out there. Tippy-top needs to be smaller.

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