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    Our club announced that the late 02's will be pretty much on their own, current u14/01 teams will stay together and move to u16, so the late 02's from the current 02/u13 teams will form a new team and play in an OYSA fall league, any other clubs making this official?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Our club announced that the late 02's will be pretty much on their own, current u14/01 teams will stay together and move to u16, so the late 02's from the current 02/u13 teams will form a new team and play in an OYSA fall league, any other clubs making this official?
    No teams are staying together at our club. Full implementation of the new age groups in May.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      No teams are staying together at our club. Full implementation of the new age groups in May.
      what will non high school 02's do while the high school 02's are playing for their school?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        what will non high school 02's do while the high school 02's are playing for their school?
        Will depend on numbers for each club. This won't be an issue for larger clubs, only for smaller clubs. Looking through OYSA website, seems as though most clubs have 2-3 teams at U13.

        Implicit in your words is the assumption that a large number of 02's in high school will play HS ball in fall. Then all clubs will likely be in the same situation. In other words, you will see the fall '02 first teams be a mixture of current U13 first team and second team players who are in 8th grade. If you have 16 on the roster and have two teams today at U13, then you have a pool of 32 players. Out of the 32 players, you will likely have about 10-11 players as 8th graders. So you combine with some players from '03 pool playing up and you got a team. If you have 3 teams today of 16 or 48 players total, then you have 16 players already. Think of it this way: the fall '02 premier league will be mostly the first teams of the current U13 teams with a few players added from the second teams. Competition will still be strong...

        Only an issue for small clubs... So if your child is at a small club, you might need to consider moving or sucking it up.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Will depend on numbers for each club. This won't be an issue for larger clubs, only for smaller clubs. Looking through OYSA website, seems as though most clubs have 2-3 teams at U13.

          Implicit in your words is the assumption that a large number of 02's in high school will play HS ball in fall. Then all clubs will likely be in the same situation. In other words, you will see the fall '02 first teams be a mixture of current U13 first team and second team players who are in 8th grade. If you have 16 on the roster and have two teams today at U13, then you have a pool of 32 players. Out of the 32 players, you will likely have about 10-11 players as 8th graders. So you combine with some players from '03 pool playing up and you got a team. If you have 3 teams today of 16 or 48 players total, then you have 16 players already. Think of it this way: the fall '02 premier league will be mostly the first teams of the current U13 teams with a few players added from the second teams. Competition will still be strong...

          Only an issue for small clubs... So if your child is at a small club, you might need to consider moving or sucking it up.

          Highly recommend against moving to bigger clubs. Bigger is not better, like a lot of things in life.

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            #6
            What Club

            What is the club?

            Im at W-T-F-C with an 01 boy and 6 of that starting XI are now 02's with a very talent-less pool of 00's that will now become 01's.

            We are playing RCL 2 so Im really looking for option?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              What is the club?

              Im at W-T-F-C with an 01 boy and 6 of that starting XI are now 02's with a very talent-less pool of 00's that will now become 01's.

              We are playing RCL 2 so Im really looking for option?
              Move to Crossfire or FCP.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                what will non high school 02's do while the high school 02's are playing for their school?
                This isnt a new phenom. 8 grade teams generally have some kids already in high school. Those kids would not practice during the week and would make games on weekends. Really wasnt a big deal.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  what will non high school 02's do while the high school 02's are playing for their school?
                  We have older kids and an '01. There are usually big changes going to high school every year anyway.

                  First talk to your coach and other parents on your team. You will probably have to wait until after tryouts to see if you have enough commitment for a fall team. Even if some high schoolers say they will do both, it probably won't happen as HS is already 5-6 days a week. So not sure how it will work unless you are at a big club and have enough Fall '02's. I think at our club the teams will fall apart, some will quit club in hs, the 8th graders will have to find another team. There is usually a big drop off in club in hs, even the big clubs struggle due to drop off, injuries, conflicts with other activities etc.

                  If you don't think you will have enough at your club, start looking at other clubs or sports. It would be great if clubs could work together, which we tried a couple of times in HS but without much success.

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                    #10
                    Dear F.C. Portland Families,

                    We would like to give everyone an update regarding the initiatives that US Soccer has implemented over the last couple of months. The initiative that we believe will most concern our parents is the shift from “school year” age brackets to “calendar year” age brackets.
                    US Soccer has mandated that these initiatives are implemented by 2017, but Oregon Youth Soccer Association (OYSA) and the Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) have both stated that they will be implementing the new age group classification in 2016.

                    As a club, we will be implementing the new age groups for the 2016-2017 year. Here is what this means for you and your child:

                    No one will “lose” a year of soccer.

                    Most of the age-groups are simple and straight forward—If you are a ’03 you will be on a team with other ’03 players. As a club, we will continue to have the ability to move a player up if their talent level warrants the move and it is the best for the player’s development.

                    8th/9th Grade Situation—Every year from now on, we will run into the issue that for our “U15” team we have half of the players in High School (Freshman) and the other half in Middle School (8th Graders). The “U15” team will continue to train in the fall and will play in OYSA “U15” fall league. Players that are in High School will still be able to play for their High School teams.

                    U18/U19 Situation—The current age groups for 2016/17 have the U18’s as the ‘99s. To solve the problem, all “U18” leagues will now be “U18/U19” leagues which will allow the ‘98s that are seniors in high school to participate.

                    In the next couple of days, you will see announcements for tryouts and some birth-year training sessions so that our players can start to see what their new age group will look like.
                    As always, feel free to reach out to the club with any questions.

                    Thank you for your time,

                    Rob Baarts
                    Director of Coaching

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                      #11
                      Oysa is planning on some kind of fall league for the new 8th/9th grade situation. Likely more like 7v7 or something to account for lesser numbers. This is great news compared to many other state leagues that will provide no fall league for the trapped 8th graders. Small sided games are also supposed to be better for development. A silver lining for trapped players.

                      If you don't have enough current u13 2002s to form a team, some 2003s can play up - particularly in summer tournaments. Players who would like to play on full birth year teams can always go to ECNL, one of the bigger clubs or join forces with another small club nearby. We can all thank US Soccer for this turmoil. Next year the addition of GDAP will cause even more team changes. Clubs are doing the best they can for the greatest number of players. The big clubs have it easier because they can simply reshuffle the teams.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Oysa is planning on some kind of fall league for the new 8th/9th grade situation. Likely more like 7v7 or something to account for lesser numbers. This is great news compared to many other state leagues that will provide no fall league for the trapped 8th graders. Small sided games are also supposed to be better for development. A silver lining for trapped players.

                        If you don't have enough current u13 2002s to form a team, some 2003s can play up - particularly in summer tournaments. Players who would like to play on full birth year teams can always go to ECNL, one of the bigger clubs or join forces with another small club nearby. We can all thank US Soccer for this turmoil. Next year the addition of GDAP will cause even more team changes. Clubs are doing the best they can for the greatest number of players. The big clubs have it easier because they can simply reshuffle the teams.
                        GDAP won't be coming to Oregon so it won't change anything here.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          GDAP won't be coming to Oregon so it won't change anything here.
                          Why do you keep saying this? Is it based on some opinion of yours or do you actually know something? I would think that at a minimum with the Thorns Academy already being in place providing for some infrastructure, that Portland would be a natural fit. Also, with the Thorns doing so well both competitively and commercially, Portland would seem a rather reasonable choice. I understand Thorns Academy haven't been super competitive and aside from the anti-TA sentiment, it does have many checkboxes ticked off.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            What is the club?

                            Im at W-T-F-C with an 01 boy and 6 of that starting XI are now 02's with a very talent-less pool of 00's that will now become 01's.

                            We are playing RCL 2 so Im really looking for option?
                            New coaching change also. Can't your player play up and stay on the 01's? Or drop down to the 02's? I thought the 02's had a decent team and if you add the 6 02's playing up right now. Not seeing the urgency to leave, and I don't even care for WT.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Why do you keep saying this? Is it based on some opinion of yours or do you actually know something? I would think that at a minimum with the Thorns Academy already being in place providing for some infrastructure, that Portland would be a natural fit. Also, with the Thorns doing so well both competitively and commercially, Portland would seem a rather reasonable choice. I understand Thorns Academy haven't been super competitive and aside from the anti-TA sentiment, it does have many checkboxes ticked off.
                              Biggest problem is that the travel required for a Portland DA team will be worse than for ECNL. There won't be more than 1 or 2 DA teams in the NW so they'll be flying to SoCal and Texas all the time to get beat up.

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