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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    1) They won't even play teams from outside Oregon. This is a "no travel" league. They will play only the other 6 Oregon/SWWA teams. They will not even play the Seattle area teams. They will not play state cup. They will not play in any tournaments in the summer. They will not play in OYSA.

    2) They will improve simply because there are only 7 of them. If you want your boy to have any shot at all at the PTFC U14 Academy he'll need to be at one of these 7 clubs. Period.
    Why limit exposure to just Oregon sounds boring.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Keep in mind, half of everyone's U11 will be in U11 again next year, assuming clubs don't play lots of kids up to keep teams more or less intact.
      wrong. half of the U11's will be U12's and the other half will be U13's. The Aug-Dec born kids will never play U12.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Why limit exposure to just Oregon sounds boring.
        They may not. WA has the same issue so it will probably be combined, or at least have some friendlies with them. Yes they want to limit travel but it doesn't mean there won't be some travel. Can easily play teams up north - it isn't like they have to travel to CO or TX. And the point of DA is to have more training and fewer meaningless games

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I'd love to know where this quality coaching is coming from?
          Ridiculous!!!!

          So, if BSC's U11 (soon to be U12) cannot even win the first division, how is it that they can compete with the DA teams from Southern Cal? Oregon teams are not good enough to compete with California and even Washington teams for that matter. When you hand this DA to a bunch of clubs then the talent gets diluted even more. It's another selling tool to the oblivious parent. When will we ever learn?
          The whole philosophy of the DA is to fight the nonsense mentioned above.
          The problem with youth soccer lies in the comment above where "competition" is more important than the process.

          The DA teams will will only play 26 games. They will train 4 days per week. My DD is an '05 and will not do it for another year. Our clubs DA will include weekly Futsal, movement training, yoga and combat training. This is way bigger than the crazy parents who go play for a team because of what the competition is.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The whole philosophy of the DA is to fight the nonsense mentioned above.
            The problem with youth soccer lies in the comment above where "competition" is more important than the process.

            The DA teams will will only play 26 games. They will train 4 days per week. My DD is an '05 and will not do it for another year. Our clubs DA will include weekly Futsal, movement training, yoga and combat training. This is way bigger than the crazy parents who go play for a team because of what the competition is.
            You had me until you added the combat training. :D:JokeDrum:

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              #21
              How big are rosters?

              Lemme see. 7 U12 DAs in the Timbers' turf, feeding into the Timbers U14 academy, which has a roster space of 14... the pipeline still gets pretty narrow pretty quickly. I'm not sure age 13 is a good time to be culling the herd so severely, especially with boys, given that boys that age will be in various stages of puberty. OTOH, maybe they expect that a fair number of the kids will washout of U12 and not even make it to U14.

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                #22
                Roster space of 24, not 14

                dang typo.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Lemme see. 7 U12 DAs in the Timbers' turf, feeding into the Timbers U14 academy, which has a roster space of 14... the pipeline still gets pretty narrow pretty quickly. I'm not sure age 13 is a good time to be culling the herd so severely, especially with boys, given that boys that age will be in various stages of puberty. OTOH, maybe they expect that a fair number of the kids will washout of U12 and not even make it to U14.
                  Don't rule out another full DA being added at some point. The area definitely needs it

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    1) They won't even play teams from outside Oregon. This is a "no travel" league. They will play only the other 6 Oregon/SWWA teams. They will not even play the Seattle area teams. They will not play state cup. They will not play in any tournaments in the summer. They will not play in OYSA.

                    2) They will improve simply because there are only 7 of them. If you want your boy to have any shot at all at the PTFC U14 Academy he'll need to be at one of these 7 clubs. Period.
                    If a player is really good it does not matter if he comes from the Moon! He will still get picked at a try out for U14 Timbers. The clubs that have these DA's trick parents into thinking that but it's not true.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The whole philosophy of the DA is to fight the nonsense mentioned above.
                      The problem with youth soccer lies in the comment above where "competition" is more important than the process.

                      The DA teams will will only play 26 games. They will train 4 days per week. My DD is an '05 and will not do it for another year. Our clubs DA will include weekly Futsal, movement training, yoga and combat training. This is way bigger than the crazy parents who go play for a team because of what the competition is.
                      Complete nonsense!!! You have no idea what you are talking about.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Complete nonsense!!! You have no idea what you are talking about.
                        The OP is correct. 4 training sessions per week. Max 1 game per week from September to June (about 26 total). No state cup. No tournaments. No travel farther than Salem. And 26 kids max per club forming 2 teams each week.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Slow Xavi View Post
                          You had me until you added the combat training. :D:JokeDrum:
                          I'm sure combat training and even yoga is looked at as funny by some parents but in actuality it is part of the training in other parts of the world. We are so far behind the game here in the U.S.

                          Parents don't have a clue what true development looks like. All parents worry about are "are we traveling outside of the state?" "what league are we in"

                          they don't even understand the process. Parents are dumb

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I'm sure combat training and even yoga is looked at as funny by some parents but in actuality it is part of the training in other parts of the world. We are so far behind the game here in the U.S.

                            Parents don't have a clue what true development looks like. All parents worry about are "are we traveling outside of the state?" "what league are we in"

                            they don't even understand the process. Parents are dumb
                            Think lots of clubs/players do yoga and brits have worked in boxing for a long-time. I thought you were kidding about combat training though . . . learn something every day.

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                              #29
                              Combat training

                              Maybe they should get Greg Loughanis to teach diving?

                              Down at the Tahuichi Way program in Bolivia--a residential soccer training camp for poor locals (and not-so-poor Westerners) that a certain local DoC is involved with--the program includes such things as "river running" (jogging upstream through a warm, slow-moving river) and other fitness activities. But really--if one is looking to improve one's overall fitness/flexibility/strength/stamina, pretty much any sport or physical discipline may have something that soccer can borrow from. To what extent such activities should be done over getting touches with the ball, is a good question.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The OP is correct. 4 training sessions per week. Max 1 game per week from September to June (about 26 total). No state cup. No tournaments. No travel farther than Salem. And 26 kids max per club forming 2 teams each week.
                                DA is about more meaningful training and fewer meaningless games. Full disclosure I have a nephew back east playing on an MLS team. I am a bit envious - his parents are no longer driving all over god's creation every weekend, he's not playing 2+ games/weekend, no cup games, no holiday weekends lost to tournaments. the level he plays at now is amazing

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