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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    However you want to define fundraising is up to you. Seems they are fundraising through the rec and development teams.

    Either way, can’t deny their dominance over the PAC NW ECNL.

    And they have a ton of younger teams still.

    All clubs lose numbers as the players age. Only the true player remain past 15 years old. This pattern is even worse at lesser developed clubs... aging out of club soccer and other sports is a fact of life. What matters is how strong your younger development and membership numbers are
    At most clubs, the B and C team are, in some sense, helping to pay for the A team.

    * Dues at most clubs are the same regardless of what team you are placed on.
    * B and C teams generally have coaches with less experience or licensure, and may train less or be assigned less desirable fields.
    * Many clubs offer scholarships to players who cannot afford dues, and those are often weighted to the higher-level teams.

    On the other hand:

    * A teams travel more, and B/C teams are generally not asked to foot the bill for travel. (At least at the club my kids are with; there's no "travel subsidy" across teams).
    * Some things the A team(s) do cost extra and there's a surcharge. At least one of the EAL clubs has reported a surcharge for their A team to participate (there were no B teams down in Salem last weekend).

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      However you want to define fundraising is up to you. Seems they are fundraising through the rec and development teams.

      Either way, can’t deny their dominance over the PAC NW ECNL.

      And they have a ton of younger teams still.

      All clubs lose numbers as the players age. Only the true player remain past 15 years old. This pattern is even worse at lesser developed clubs... aging out of club soccer and other sports is a fact of life. What matters is how strong your younger development and membership numbers are
      Not true actually Crossfire premier is suffering for numbers across the board with girls teams. Only 2 teams in each age group at 09 and younger. When my kid started they easily went 4-5 teams deep in 7v7 teams and 3-4 at the 9v9 ages. Like I said pyramid scheme doesn't work if there aren't enough teams on the bottom.

      They'll still have strong teams, but can't deny the writing on the wall when 4 years ago they had 3-4 teams in each girls age group and now they are down to 2. You can blame it on covid for a little while . . .

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

        Not true actually Crossfire premier is suffering for numbers across the board with girls teams. Only 2 teams in each age group at 09 and younger. When my kid started they easily went 4-5 teams deep in 7v7 teams and 3-4 at the 9v9 ages. Like I said pyramid scheme doesn't work if there aren't enough teams on the bottom.

        They'll still have strong teams, but can't deny the writing on the wall when 4 years ago they had 3-4 teams in each girls age group and now they are down to 2. You can blame it on covid for a little while . . .
        What are you talking about? Where do you get your numbers?
        I am very familiar with the Washington Club scene and I can tell for an absolute certainty that XF has the biggest numbers by a large margin for both boys and girls in the state of Washington. And of you compare this to Oregon it is dramatic.

        they have 8 teams each in both boys and girls for 09-06

        this is broken down by XF Select XF RCL XF premier. XF Futures etc…

        you’re trolling or delusional.

        They are a mega club for the NW and have huge membership numbers


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          You must be new here. Pretty much nothing posted here is true.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

            Through sponsorship and donations.

            Thats how XF Premier and many national clubs do it

            It takes a lot of fundraising, but that is why these clubs are designated non-profits.

            You have to get creative. You have to build a very strong (young) youth development system with dozens of teams that pay to develop and have the chance to rise to the premier teams. You manage the money wisely and subsidize the premier teams (1 per age group starting at u14). It can be done, but take a long term approach.

            FC, Westside, and Thusc lack this vision and only care about their boys programs that are substantially more profitable due to the larger numbers.

            Thorns should have stayed independent instead of panicking and going with Westside. Now they are trapped. FC has no younger pools and the shine is off the penny. Crossfire and Thorns will dilute each other and never win anything outside of the region.

            Why fundraise when parents will gladly write checks? Who will do all this fundraising? Parents? Again they'd rather write a check. There are few clubs in the system that make such an effort and more often than not they run some big tournaments that rake in the serious $. Of course pay to play keeps some kids out or the higher leagues, but it's the system we have. If your kid is a true stud there's usually some $ to be found for fees but not travel. Boys that are good enough can make MLS free-to-play teams. In girls soccer it's all about the money.

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