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    SUSA Tryouts waste of time

    My take, and feel free to pass on to SUSA management.... There are 80 kids trying out. 50 of them are existing SUSA players. They let them all scrimmage for 10 minutes to warm up in 5v5 then break them up into 9v9 ... they take the existing A team to verse themselves, another game is what looks like the B team playing each other, then all the new players playing against each other. I guess this is ok because you want to break out the existing players because you already know how they play. At least that is the idea, but when you watch 5 trainers spend approximately 90% of their time with their backs to the new players it is annoying. We would watch the trainers stand in the middle of the field in a group talking facing their existing team scrimmages, then occasionally one of them would turn around and make a 360, then go back to their conversations.... Other tryouts I have been to with my other kids, there is a trainer on each scrimmage watching it, then he would switch games with another trainer. This way they all get good looks at the kids so they can make real comparisons. This just felt like they are happy with their high level A team already and are looking to fill up a C and D team to add $$ to the till.
    Very disappointing after hearing good things about SUSA...

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    SUSA literally bought it's teams when it did it's massive expansion. First they approached club Presidents and offered them (personally, not the club) tens of thousands of dollars to bring over all their teams. That's how they got Commack, Dix Hills, etc. For the clubs that said no to their offers, they then offered a few thousand dollars each to the individual head coaches to bring their teams over. They could afford to do this because with a tuition of around $2,500 a player, they easily recouped that money and more.

    This got them a massive number of players to evaluate over the past year and they've been funneling the cream to the top teams along the way. The true "SUSA" trainers handle the A teams and B teams while the rest of the teams are relegated to just being cash cows.

    And now for the funny part. All these coaches (mostly parent coaches) that were bribed to bring over teams to SUSA are being told that their services are no longer needed next year as SUSA is banking that the players will stay rather than follow these cretins out the door.

    So no, they don't really care about random kids showing up at their tryouts because they only see most kids as walking dollar signs. They have the top players they want and they are probably more than aware of the few top players that are considering switching to them long before any tryouts.

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      #3
      it is a shame because people are paying for the "SUSA" level of training, but they are only getting foot skills and scrimmage. Some of those kids could excel if they had the right teacher, but looks like parents are being sold a bill of goods and getting the same thing that their town team can do. Shameful....

      Who has a program where you get what you pay for? Or do you just do your own separate training, and be the superstar on your town team?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        it is a shame because people are paying for the "SUSA" level of training, but they are only getting foot skills and scrimmage. Some of those kids could excel if they had the right teacher, but looks like parents are being sold a bill of goods and getting the same thing that their town team can do. Shameful....

        Who has a program where you get what you pay for? Or do you just do your own separate training, and be the superstar on your town team?
        I should make one correction here. If you are a top talent and manage to get on a SUSA A team, and for the most part the B teams, you will get great training. But if you are on one of the C or D teams, you are wasting your money and should play for a town club instead.

        Really what the right thing to do is to show up to a few clubs open practices and see for yourself what the quality of training is there.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My take, and feel free to pass on to SUSA management.... There are 80 kids trying out. 50 of them are existing SUSA players. They let them all scrimmage for 10 minutes to warm up in 5v5 then break them up into 9v9 ... they take the existing A team to verse themselves, another game is what looks like the B team playing each other, then all the new players playing against each other. I guess this is ok because you want to break out the existing players because you already know how they play. At least that is the idea, but when you watch 5 trainers spend approximately 90% of their time with their backs to the new players it is annoying. We would watch the trainers stand in the middle of the field in a group talking facing their existing team scrimmages, then occasionally one of them would turn around and make a 360, then go back to their conversations.... Other tryouts I have been to with my other kids, there is a trainer on each scrimmage watching it, then he would switch games with another trainer. This way they all get good looks at the kids so they can make real comparisons. This just felt like they are happy with their high level A team already and are looking to fill up a C and D team to add $$ to the till.
          Very disappointing after hearing good things about SUSA...
          Why do they bring their existing players in at all? Our club does not let the current players attend tryouts. They tell us the players are being evaluated all year long, they do not need to be seen at a tryout. If your kid is on the B team, our coaches plan scrimmages throughout the year where the A team comes in to play the B team. The coaches also switch up their practices so that the A team guy coaches the B team and the B team coach, coaches the A team. Tryouts are only for new talent. If they like a player, they then have them in to guest play in a practice with the whole team

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I should make one correction here. If you are a top talent and manage to get on a SUSA A team, and for the most part the B teams, you will get great training. But if you are on one of the C or D teams, you are wasting your money and should play for a town club instead.

            Really what the right thing to do is to show up to a few clubs open practices and see for yourself what the quality of training is there.
            welcome to reality at a club with a lot of teams. Its a business

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Why do they bring their existing players in at all? Our club does not let the current players attend tryouts. They tell us the players are being evaluated all year long, they do not need to be seen at a tryout. If your kid is on the B team, our coaches plan scrimmages throughout the year where the A team comes in to play the B team. The coaches also switch up their practices so that the A team guy coaches the B team and the B team coach, coaches the A team. Tryouts are only for new talent. If they like a player, they then have them in to guest play in a practice with the whole team
              Our club prefers the opposite. Not so much to evaluate the existing players, but to give a benchmark for the new players. If a player is being considered for a certain team, then put them in a drill or scrimmage with some players on that team to see how they compare. Can they hold their own?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Our club prefers the opposite. Not so much to evaluate the existing players, but to give a benchmark for the new players. If a player is being considered for a certain team, then put them in a drill or scrimmage with some players on that team to see how they compare. Can they hold their own?
                Kudos. All small potatos compared to Barca Academy NY. #WeAreBarcaNY

                If you want real training then send Barca Academy an email. Forca Barca

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Kudos. All small potatos compared to Barca Academy NY. #WeAreBarcaNY

                  If you want real training then send Barca Academy an email. Forca Barca
                  Barca ignores half the soccer playing population that is female. Maybe if you are male.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Our club prefers the opposite. Not so much to evaluate the existing players, but to give a benchmark for the new players. If a player is being considered for a certain team, then put them in a drill or scrimmage with some players on that team to see how they compare. Can they hold their own?
                    This is what I thought a quality program like SUSA would do.. very disappointed.....

                    As for Barca ... let them actually open the facility they talked about so we don't have to drive an hour away, and we would love to see if live up to the name.

                    Everyone that jumps a post and does the Forca Barca thing just makes their program look bad.. so you may have a good thing, but you make yourself look like a fool.. no way around it.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This is what I thought a quality program like SUSA would do.. very disappointed.....

                      As for Barca ... let them actually open the facility they talked about so we don't have to drive an hour away, and we would love to see if live up to the name.

                      Everyone that jumps a post and does the Forca Barca thing just makes their program look bad.. so you may have a good thing, but you make yourself look like a fool.. no way around it.
                      I suspect that most of the Forca Barca posts are made by non-Barca parents looking to stir up resentment.

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                        #12
                        Hate to break it to you but a good coach knows in the first 5 minutes if a player has what it takes to be on the top teams. Comments about coaches ignoring new players at tryouts are unfounded. Coaches not purposely ignoring them......they’ve already made their evaluation

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                          Why do they bring their existing players in at all? Our club does not let the current players attend tryouts. They tell us the players are being evaluated all year long, they do not need to be seen at a tryout. If your kid is on the B team, our coaches plan scrimmages throughout the year where the A team comes in to play the B team. The coaches also switch up their practices so that the A team guy coaches the B team and the B team coach, coaches the A team. Tryouts are only for new talent. If they like a player, they then have them in to guest play in a practice with the whole team
                          ‘Tryouts’ are all just a dog and pony show. The lower kids feel like they had the opportunity to try out as do new kids. As stated, these kids have been evaluated all year, there is nothing that you can do in this final 90 minutes to change the year long assessment. If you are an outsider trying to make an A team (at SUSA or anywhere) call the coach and set up a visit to a practice. Your kid will train with the team they are trying to make for direct comparisons. This is how kids really ‘tryout’.

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                            #14
                            Current kids tryouts are basically the entire year. New outside kids can occasionally be found in a tryout. More often, it is through training with the team a few times during the year that you get invited in. If you are a B player at SUSA, you are better off trying for an A team outside the club.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                              Our club prefers the opposite. Not so much to evaluate the existing players, but to give a benchmark for the new players. If a player is being considered for a certain team, then put them in a drill or scrimmage with some players on that team to see how they compare. Can they hold their own?
                              Our club has only new players at the tryouts, then invite the standouts from the tryouts to come to practice with the current team to see how they hold their own.

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