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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    No it will not help. Also if you are a stud player on NPL it won’t help with big programs either because the coaches will not see you and even if they do they can’t judge how you would be in faster and stronger competition. It only makes sense that they recruit from top leagues.
    I see. So great player who can't afford GDA or ECNL, best they can hope for is D3. Too bad but that's life, isn't it?

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      No it will not help. Also if you are a stud player on NPL it won’t help with big programs either because the coaches will not see you and even if they do they can’t judge how you would be in faster and stronger competition. It only makes sense that they recruit from top leagues.
      So not true, our npl team has players going to unh, assumption, Bryant, Cornell and more. Coaches see you if you go to good events!

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Not talking about scholarship $ but just opportunity... going back to the original question...would ODP possibly get you in front of the right coaches for a D1 opportunity? Or if you're amazing but for whatever reason play NPL and not GDA or ECNL, can ODP help get you in front of D1 coaches or are you forever stuck in D3?
        ODP State team isn't going to do much on its own, but if a player is making ODP regional teams, starting 4 years varsity, getting recognized at all state or all american level, and actively reaching out to coaches and attending school specific camps, it's possible.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I see. So great player who can't afford GDA or ECNL, best they can hope for is D3. Too bad but that's life, isn't it?
          Not entirely but it will be much more challenging. Top D1 is highly unlikely and the probability is very high that they'd never play. Most NPL players won't be well prepared for the pace of college ball. Lower level D1 can still happen if they're skilled and motivated to put the leg work in. There's also nothing wrong with D3 - top D3 overlaps a lot with low level D1. If the academics at a D3 are better than the D1 options always go for the better school. There's also D2 but with a few exceptions the academics usually aren't as strong.

          ODP in any of it won't make much difference unless they make the higher level squad. Its really just a bullet point on a resume. Statistically very few will make that level

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Not entirely but it will be much more challenging. Top D1 is highly unlikely and the probability is very high that they'd never play. Most NPL players won't be well prepared for the pace of college ball. Lower level D1 can still happen if they're skilled and motivated to put the leg work in. There's also nothing wrong with D3 - top D3 overlaps a lot with low level D1. If the academics at a D3 are better than the D1 options always go for the better school. There's also D2 but with a few exceptions the academics usually aren't as strong.

            ODP in any of it won't make much difference unless they make the higher level squad. Its really just a bullet point on a resume. Statistically very few will make that level
            Correct - Look at the region and the DIII women's soccer programs are VERY competitive. Programs like Tufts, Amherst, Williams, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Conn College, Brandies & Springfield would play and compete with UNH any day. In addition, looking at those schools academics - you can argue that the academics are on par or exceed in some cases that you could get at UNH.

            Those programs are powerhouse women's programs and you add in a KSC or a Colby Sawyer and you have a very strong DIII pool. Its not getting stuck.

            Look at it this way, pay $30K per year and sit the bench at UNH or pay $30K per year and play at one of these DIII schools, win games, win your conference, hang a conference championship banner, and make the NCAA tournament.

            Same at some DII schools. Pay to play and sit the bench when you could have gone to a DIII and played. Why work hard, pay tens of thousands to sit? Is that what you call opportunity?

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              #51
              Listening to the BS on this discussion page only proves there will never be a true soccer culture in NH let alone the US. It's a game you need to teach your kids to learn to love!

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                #52
                Sat on the sidelines at a game this weekend as an 08 parent went on for an hour about how amazing her d is, about how the coach changed game schedules to accommodate her so she could be double rostered, etc. I thought she was trying to do a parody of an obnoxious soccer mom but no, she was the real deal. Climax was when her d made a bonehead move that cost her team the goal that lost the game. And yet mom still blames the coach and the rest of the team.

                Point is don't let the big mouths get you down. They might yell louder but if your d is as good as you think and works hard, she will get noticed.

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                  #53
                  College soccer is college soccer. It’s amazing at any level to play and even better to earn money to play. Any level is a success in itself and should be applauded. That said, divisions have very different competition and speed and skill also varies in a single division. Stamford vs Duke is going to be faster paced and more precise than UNH vs Harvard, which is going to be faster paced that CCU vs Hofstra - despite all being Div I.
                  Coming from NH, we are at a disadvantage and if a player dreams of getting to a level of pace and skill to play upper division I they have to play out of MA and be on a top level team (ECNL or GDA) and if they want to try for any money they need to be in the top half of these teams. Just a fact of life, which isn’t fair.

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                    #54
                    Stanford - spell check

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      College soccer is college soccer. It’s amazing at any level to play and even better to earn money to play. Any level is a success in itself and should be applauded. That said, divisions have very different competition and speed and skill also varies in a single division. Stamford vs Duke is going to be faster paced and more precise than UNH vs Harvard, which is going to be faster paced that CCU vs Hofstra - despite all being Div I.
                      Coming from NH, we are at a disadvantage and if a player dreams of getting to a level of pace and skill to play upper division I they have to play out of MA and be on a top level team (ECNL or GDA) and if they want to try for any money they need to be in the top half of these teams. Just a fact of life, which isn’t fair.
                      Correct - I have seen countless families throw big money at club soccer programs and SU Academy for their kids to be a DIII player just like kids who have not played club soccer. On the boys side kids have sacrificed playing for their high school teams as part of the SU Academy and still ended up a DIII player because that is what they were the entire time - a DIII level athlete.

                      On the girls side almost every (90%) of the girls form NH who go DI all played club soccer in MA. The best girls in the last 20 years played club out of state including Hill and Andrews. Even the best player sin the last 3 years played over the boarder.

                      Just let your kids play and love the game. If they are good enough to play any level college that means they are in the top 9% of players in the entire country because only 9% of high school girls soccer players go on to play any level of college soccer. DIII, DII, or DI - regardless of division - that's exclusive company.

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