ECNL Nationals - Boys

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Not the OP but in reading what they wrote it seemed to be about hitting all parts of USA in regards to college recruitment. not the quality of the schools attending... everyone can say their opinion of what they feel is a quality school so not gonna go there... but pretty sure an east coast school isn't going to SD and a west coast school isn't gonna go the FL or PA. my kid has been to both SD and PA and FL and all were good and beneficial..

That is great for you if that is the case. Happy for your kid truly. What is also the case is many of the major programs out west of the rockies didn't bother to show up. Less than 20 D1 schools and less than than 15 D2. Less than 75 school in total. Yep, good times.

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That is great for you if that is the case. Happy for your kid truly. What is also the case is many of the major programs out west of the rockies didn't bother to show up. Less than 20 D1 schools and less than than 15 D2. Less than 75 school in total. Yep, good times.

2 things in reference to above... if you are a parent of soccer player and you are focused on D1 schools for your kid, I am sorry for you.. it is not a reality for 98% of players. and second, if you are thinking that +- 75 colleges is not good enough for a showcase, again you are living in a delusional world. even 40+- schools is strong.
would love to know what showcase you are taking your kid to that you feel is so amazing

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2 things in reference to above... if you are a parent of soccer player and you are focused on D1 schools for your kid, I am sorry for you.. it is not a reality for 98% of players. and second, if you are thinking that +- 75 colleges is not good enough for a showcase, again you are living in a delusional world. even 40+- schools is strong.
would love to know what showcase you are taking your kid to that you feel is so amazing

Regardless of ECNL or DA; it really sucks that college rosters are full of international players. The college game is terrible as it is. Might as well let more american kids play and try to develop it that way. That's a whole separate issue I guess.

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In fairness to Miramar in regard to the U14s the Florida and Pennsylvania events don't have a U14 division. In years past there was a U14 showcase in South Carolina but they did away with it.

Regardless. Still think it was pointless to spend all the time, money and resources to go to San Diego with a bunch of 7th and 8th graders. Especially at the possible cost of not being able to go to ENCL National Playoffs. Not to mention they went and played three games instead of playing two against conference opponents that are, on paper and by result, pretty good games.

Don’t see the value on spending $500 on average per game across the country when the boys are U14. It’s not like they are being scouted or looked at. 3 games $1500 for what?

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Far and away the BEST showcase for exposure....

2 things in reference to above... if you are a parent of soccer player and you are focused on D1 schools for your kid, I am sorry for you.. it is not a reality for 98% of players. and second, if you are thinking that +- 75 colleges is not good enough for a showcase, again you are living in a delusional world. even 40+- schools is strong.
would love to know what showcase you are taking your kid to that you feel is so amazing

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20180724-f...by-the-numbers

From the collegiate level alone, over 400 scouts and head coaches from all NCAA Divisions, including 250+ from Division 1 schools, came out in waves to the Summer Showcase and Playoffs.

Dozens of MLS and USL clubs represented domestic professional programs scouting top talent while 30+ international scouts came from some of the biggest leagues around the world including Bundesliga, Serbian SuperLiga, Liga MX, English Premier League and Eredivisie.

Every one of the 638 games played during the 2018 Development Academy Summer Showcase, Playoffs and Championships was observed by at least one U.S. Soccer Scout, Technical Advisor or Youth National Team head coach.

At the Summer Showcase and Playoffs, all nine U.S. Soccer Boys' Technical Advisors were in attendance, along with 23 regional network scouts from across the country. Boys' Youth National Team head coaches were also engaged, shifting across the 22 full-length fields with their eyes out for players ready for the next development step: the U.S. Youth National Teams.

During the eight days of Girls' competitions in Oceanside, the entire team of nine U.S. Soccer Girls' Technical Advisors descended upon SoCal Sports Complex, along with 22 regional network scouts. All Women's YNT head coaches on the Girls' side were also an integral part of scouting the fields: April Kater (U-14), Tracey Kevins (U-15), Mark Carr (U-17), Jaime Frias (U-18), Keri Sarver (U-19), Jitka Klimkova (U-20) as well as Technical Director April Heinrichs.

Pretty sure that answers your question!

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http://www.ussoccerda.com/20180724-f...by-the-numbers

From the collegiate level alone, over 400 scouts and head coaches from all NCAA Divisions, including 250+ from Division 1 schools, came out in waves to the Summer Showcase and Playoffs.

Dozens of MLS and USL clubs represented domestic professional programs scouting top talent while 30+ international scouts came from some of the biggest leagues around the world including Bundesliga, Serbian SuperLiga, Liga MX, English Premier League and Eredivisie.

Every one of the 638 games played during the 2018 Development Academy Summer Showcase, Playoffs and Championships was observed by at least one U.S. Soccer Scout, Technical Advisor or Youth National Team head coach.

At the Summer Showcase and Playoffs, all nine U.S. Soccer Boys' Technical Advisors were in attendance, along with 23 regional network scouts from across the country. Boys' Youth National Team head coaches were also engaged, shifting across the 22 full-length fields with their eyes out for players ready for the next development step: the U.S. Youth National Teams.

During the eight days of Girls' competitions in Oceanside, the entire team of nine U.S. Soccer Girls' Technical Advisors descended upon SoCal Sports Complex, along with 22 regional network scouts. All Women's YNT head coaches on the Girls' side were also an integral part of scouting the fields: April Kater (U-14), Tracey Kevins (U-15), Mark Carr (U-17), Jaime Frias (U-18), Keri Sarver (U-19), Jitka Klimkova (U-20) as well as Technical Director April Heinrichs.

Pretty sure that answers your question!

lol, dude we get it.

How much validation do you need?

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lol, dude we get it.

How much validation do you need?

Just answering the question. Don’t shoot the messenger. But, the “boys ECNL gets recruited the same as boys DA” argument has surely been laid to rest. Good day!

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http://www.ussoccerda.com/20180724-f...by-the-numbers

From the collegiate level alone, over 400 scouts and head coaches from all NCAA Divisions, including 250+ from Division 1 schools, came out in waves to the Summer Showcase and Playoffs.

Dozens of MLS and USL clubs represented domestic professional programs scouting top talent while 30+ international scouts came from some of the biggest leagues around the world including Bundesliga, Serbian SuperLiga, Liga MX, English Premier League and Eredivisie.

Every one of the 638 games played during the 2018 Development Academy Summer Showcase, Playoffs and Championships was observed by at least one U.S. Soccer Scout, Technical Advisor or Youth National Team head coach.

At the Summer Showcase and Playoffs, all nine U.S. Soccer Boys' Technical Advisors were in attendance, along with 23 regional network scouts from across the country. Boys' Youth National Team head coaches were also engaged, shifting across the 22 full-length fields with their eyes out for players ready for the next development step: the U.S. Youth National Teams.

During the eight days of Girls' competitions in Oceanside, the entire team of nine U.S. Soccer Girls' Technical Advisors descended upon SoCal Sports Complex, along with 22 regional network scouts. All Women's YNT head coaches on the Girls' side were also an integral part of scouting the fields: April Kater (U-14), Tracey Kevins (U-15), Mark Carr (U-17), Jaime Frias (U-18), Keri Sarver (U-19), Jitka Klimkova (U-20) as well as Technical Director April Heinrichs.

Pretty sure that answers your question!

psst -- pretty sure this thread is about ECNL so move along..
and you might want to get a life also cuz all the above, albeit awesome info, shows you need either a life or a new hobby

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psst -- pretty sure this thread is about ECNL so move along..
and you might want to get a life also cuz all the above, albeit awesome info, shows you need either a life or a new hobby

DA Dad will not know what to do when his kid goes off to a D2 school in the middle getmethe****outtahere. To ride the bench as some African kid runs around on the field. He might have to start talking with DA mom again

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DA Dad will not know what to do when his kid goes off to a D2 school in the middle getmethe****outtahere. To ride the bench as some African kid runs around on the field. He might have to start talking with DA mom again

Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better brother. Just tell the moron from post #5 on this thread to not provoke someone who’s willing to provide facts, not just hyperbole.

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DA Dad will not know what to do when his kid goes off to a D2 school in the middle getmethe****outtahere. To ride the bench as some African kid runs around on the field. He might have to start talking with DA mom again

Classic ECNL/DA argument here....

1. Butt-hurt ECNL Dad makes sweeping generalizations that the DA sucks, usually punctuated by “look how bad the USMNT is”, in an effort to convince himself and others that the talent pool, exposure, and opportunities are just as good in boys ECNL as they are in DA.

2. DA Dad provides hard facts, links, and other harsh realities that confirm that ECNL Dad is a moron.

3. ECNL Dad comes back “guns a blazing” with the ole “well, your kid is still going to end up at the same exact dead end D2 school at the end of it all that he would’ve gotten to if he was in ECNL”. No facts, no links, and literally zero information to back it up.

4. DA Dad realizes that just like in the real world, not everyone can be management or a business owner, and everyone else has an excuse or reason as to why they didn’t make it when someone else did. Rarely, if ever, just admitting that maybe the people who “made it” were just, at the end of the day, better.

End of argument!

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Classic ECNL/DA argument here....

1. Butt-hurt ECNL Dad makes sweeping generalizations that the DA sucks, usually punctuated by “look how bad the USMNT is”, in an effort to convince himself and others that the talent pool, exposure, and opportunities are just as good in boys ECNL as they are in DA.

2. DA Dad provides hard facts, links, and other harsh realities that confirm that ECNL Dad is a moron.

3. ECNL Dad comes back “guns a blazing” with the ole “well, your kid is still going to end up at the same exact dead end D2 school at the end of it all that he would’ve gotten to if he was in ECNL”. No facts, no links, and literally zero information to back it up.

4. DA Dad realizes that just like in the real world, not everyone can be management or a business owner, and everyone else has an excuse or reason as to why they didn’t make it when someone else did. Rarely, if ever, just admitting that maybe the people who “made it” were just, at the end of the day, better.

End of argument!

You

Are

Tedious

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2 things in reference to above... if you are a parent of soccer player and you are focused on D1 schools for your kid, I am sorry for you.. it is not a reality for 98% of players. and second, if you are thinking that +- 75 colleges is not good enough for a showcase, again you are living in a delusional world. even 40+- schools is strong.
would love to know what showcase you are taking your kid to that you feel is so amazing

Another typical response when you have no basis to stand. Come up with some jacked up remark about the kid or family. You missed the point completely. The is freaking ECNL and when Disney, Jefferson or CASL gets you better exposure; then what is the point? The training has not been particulary better. Same coaches, same club playing more or less the same teams now that ECNL is brought in so many clubs.

And yeah, 75 colleges including including Juco and CC's is not a good showcase on this level especially when you factor cost of the league, the tournament, travel, hotel, food etc...

If you think that is ok in your opinion, then why'd you join? You should have stayed in NPL or FYSA got better exposure.

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Classic ECNL/DA argument here....

1. Butt-hurt ECNL Dad makes sweeping generalizations that the DA sucks, usually punctuated by “look how bad the USMNT is”, in an effort to convince himself and others that the talent pool, exposure, and opportunities are just as good in boys ECNL as they are in DA.

2. DA Dad provides hard facts, links, and other harsh realities that confirm that ECNL Dad is a moron.

3. ECNL Dad comes back “guns a blazing” with the ole “well, your kid is still going to end up at the same exact dead end D2 school at the end of it all that he would’ve gotten to if he was in ECNL”. No facts, no links, and literally zero information to back it up.

4. DA Dad realizes that just like in the real world, not everyone can be management or a business owner, and everyone else has an excuse or reason as to why they didn’t make it when someone else did. Rarely, if ever, just admitting that maybe the people who “made it” were just, at the end of the day, better.

End of argument!

This made me laugh, and pretty much nailed it. You left out a few common ECNL Dad comments though:

“DA in Florida sucks”. So where does that put boys ECNL in Florida?

“Kids want to play HS”. If your kid wants to play HS, he probably doesn’t have the goals/desires that the majority of DA kids have.

“DA is just a money grab”. Most clubs lose money or break even on their DA programs.

There are more, but I’ve gotta run.

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When does DA Dad become Ecnl dad? U16/u17