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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    EXACTLY!!!!!!And the lobbyists intentionally use the anti-freedom stance to stir up emotions

    - Background checks and waiting periods - universal, not state to state
    - License required and if you don't have one there's a steep fine and you lose the gun until you get one
    - Required safety (written and practical) and vision testing, repeated every few years
    - Insurance required for anyone owning a gun. Again, if you don't have it you lose it
    - Stronger restrictions and implementation of already existing laws on people convicted of violent crimes as well as domestic abuse and stalking
    Do you think you have the right to confiscate legally purchased private property of a law-abiding citizen ? This is America, not the CCCP.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Columbine had a guard also
      Who was not armed and obviously had no training to deal with anything like what happened. By the way, Columbine happened during an "assault weapon ban."

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        EXACTLY!!!!!!And the lobbyists intentionally use the anti-freedom stance to stir up emotions

        - Background checks and waiting periods - universal, not state to state
        - License required and if you don't have one there's a steep fine and you lose the gun until you get one
        - Required safety (written and practical) and vision testing, repeated every few years
        - Insurance required for anyone owning a gun. Again, if you don't have it you lose it
        - Stronger restrictions and implementation of already existing laws on people convicted of violent crimes as well as domestic abuse and stalking
        I don't get why it is so hard for lawmakers to implement some basic universal gun guidelines, but if they don't they won't be voted back in. Trump says he wants a more universal data base so the law enforcement agencies and the FBI can be more effective. It really shouldn't take such big legislation to get things done. The FBI should do it. It is the job of the FBI and law enforcement to protect, and why should the FBI need the senators to tell them how to do their jobs more effectively or to improve their systems.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I don't get why it is so hard for lawmakers to implement some basic universal gun guidelines, but if they don't they won't be voted back in. Trump says he wants a more universal data base so the law enforcement agencies and the FBI can be more effective. It really shouldn't take such big legislation to get things done. The FBI should do it. It is the job of the FBI and law enforcement to protect, and why should the FBI need the senators to tell them how to do their jobs more effectively or to improve their systems.
          They way some jurisdictions cooperate with federal laws and law enforcement nowadays leaves me with doubts that will feed the national database with data. They don`t do it now, why do you think they would do it in the future?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            EXACTLY!!!!!!And the lobbyists intentionally use the anti-freedom stance to stir up emotions

            - Background checks and waiting periods - universal, not state to state
            - License required and if you don't have one there's a steep fine and you lose the gun until you get one
            - Required safety (written and practical) and vision testing, repeated every few years
            - Insurance required for anyone owning a gun. Again, if you don't have it you lose it
            - Stronger restrictions and implementation of already existing laws on people convicted of violent crimes as well as domestic abuse and stalking
            Tell this to the bro's in Chicago. They would laugh and go cap someone else that night. 679 murders in 2017, total 3561 shot. 70 dead in 2018 so far. Two months!!! See how gun control works. Gun control is working great there. A wonderful Liberal state.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Tell this to the bro's in Chicago. They would laugh and go cap someone else that night. 679 murders in 2017, total 3561 shot. 70 dead in 2018 so far. Two months!!! See how gun control works. Gun control is working great there. A wonderful Liberal state.
              If we don't start somewhere asking for gun licensure and penalties for not not have a license and insurance, then every city could end up like Chicago.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                EXACTLY!!!!!!And the lobbyists intentionally use the anti-freedom stance to stir up emotions

                - Background checks and waiting periods - universal, not state to state
                - License required and if you don't have one there's a steep fine and you lose the gun until you get one
                - Required safety (written and practical) and vision testing, repeated every few years
                - Insurance required for anyone owning a gun. Again, if you don't have it you lose it
                - Stronger restrictions and implementation of already existing laws on people convicted of violent crimes as well as domestic abuse and stalking
                Let apply the same standard to the first amendment.

                - You must have a background check to make sure you have never made biased, hateful or dishonest statements.
                - you must be licensed to make public verbal or written statements
                - Required to have any statement you make are reviewed to make sure they are acceptable
                - You must carry liability insurance just in case anyone is offended or harmed by your statements
                - If you are ever convicted of using objectable speech you are no longer allowed to speak, write or communicate your ideas in any public forum.

                Do be so quick to let emotions allow you limit your rights granted in our Constitution.

                I do not own a gun, I am former military and grew up in CT. My family and my friends family all owned guns. As a teenager, we had more fear of the punishment we would receive from our dads if we ever touched the guns with our permission then if we got caught doing anything else.

                Please stop using the term assault rifle. You can not go down to your local gun shop and buy an assault rifle.

                The problem is not access to guns. The problem is the long-term attack on the nuclear family.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If we don't start somewhere asking for gun licensure and penalties for not not have a license and insurance, then every city could end up like Chicago.
                  I don't think you get it. Crazies and murders, crooks ect don't care about LAWS. LAWS are just words to them . They laugh at the people who think that a LAW is going to stop what they do or are getting ready to do. Law abiding citizens obey the law.

                  Anyway what does insurance have to do with any of this?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I don't think you get it. Crazies and murders, crooks ect don't care about LAWS. LAWS are just words to them . They laugh at the people who think that a LAW is going to stop what they do or are getting ready to do. Law abiding citizens obey the law.

                    Anyway what does insurance have to do with any of this?
                    Once everyone takes the law into their own hands with guns and starts the gangs, chains of violence then More violence and more guns. Vicious cycle.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Do you think you have the right to confiscate legally purchased private property of a law-abiding citizen ? This is America, not the CCCP.
                      Well yes, as a matter of fact. If you are using your home or automobile in the act of selling narcotics they can be seized. Same should true for possession of an unlawful weapon. I would go even further, get caught with an unlicensed weapon, go straight to jail, no defense, no excuse whatsoever.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        All nations have mental health issues. None have the easy access to guns that we do.
                        Yet, most experience mass murder with other weapons on a monthly basis - ask Europe with the truck massacres, car bombs, knifings, decapitations etc. Motive is not the issue here (they are all crazy). Opportunity is the issue.

                        I repeat - guns have been around for a long time, plenty of guns back in the 1950s - why are school shootings only happening now? How are they any different than all of the atrocities we see in gun-free Europe?

                        The answer (hippies will not like)?

                        Liberals. Breakdown of the traditional family. Leads to mental illness. Voila. Many of you people here are good examples of this phenomena - recognize it, fix it, overcome.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You can also say what ever want (free speech) but with limitations. Same applies here:

                          "And in fact the line from Justice Holmes in Schenck v. United States is “The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic.” That “falsely” is what’s doing the work, both in Justice Holmes’s hypothetical, and in how such a false shout would be treated by First Amendment law today. Knowingly false statements of fact are often constitutionally unprotected — consider, for instance, libel, fraud, perjury, and false light invasion of privacy. That would presumably apply to knowing falsehoods that cause a panic. (Even given bit complicated by the Stolen Valor Act case, such knowing falsehoods that are likely to cause tangible and immediate harm are likely to be punishable, as the concurrence suggests.)"

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82f07e8088a3
                          The central verse in the liberal bible. Liberals. Censorship. Authoritarianism. Economic collapse. Loss if civil liberties. Slavery. Misery. The sequence has been played out over history countless times. Dummies produced by our overwhelmingly liberal education system just dont get it.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If we don't start somewhere asking for gun licensure and penalties for not not have a license and insurance, then every city could end up like Chicago.
                            Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation.
                            There goes that argument...

                            Lets get to the root of the problem. The real cause. Liberalism. Hedonism. Godlessness. Narcissism. Ignorance masquerading as academic enlightenment.

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                              Multiple posts within minutes of each other all blaming liberals. Get some new material and next time try to at least peretend you're not the same poster

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Multiple posts within minutes of each other all blaming liberals. Get some new material and next time try to at least pretend you're not the same poster
                                It's the Russian Troll f.k.a. Libtard Guy finding a new home in this thread. Prepare for more propaganda funded by Mr. Putin and posted by the Internet Research Agency.

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