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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Most of this is just not true at all. First of all, the only reason you go to a showcase when you aren't with an ECNL team is for exposure and no one really continues to make the expensive trips (save for Vegas) after their kid is committed simply because they don't need the exposure. Secondly, you are just passing fake news saying the DA travel is the same as the ECNL. Here is what the FAQ on the US Soccer DA site says:

    "Each Academy team plays approximately 25-30 league games, with an additional 6-9 games played at Showcases. Teams that advance from the Academy Playoffs could expect to play up to an additional 3 games. "

    That translates into 2-3 showcases which are optional. Very different from the mandated travel in the ECNL. Also if they are only planning on 3 game for the playoffs that means that the pool of teams making them are quite small. Again very different from the ECNL end of year thing which makes even the dog teams without a prayer travel out to the event.
    In ECNL LEAGUE play, you can easily accommodate the whole league schedule with about about 3-4 nights of hotels (mostly only a Saturday night stay for 2 games) for games since they pair them up (PA/NJ, NY/NJ, WNY (this year), CT can drive each day). Please let us know about the single, league game travel schedules for a U16 academy player.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      In ECNL LEAGUE play, you can easily accommodate the whole league schedule with about about 3-4 nights of hotels (mostly only a Saturday night stay for 2 games) for games since they pair them up (PA/NJ, NY/NJ, WNY (this year), CT can drive each day). Please let us know about the single, league game travel schedules for a U16 academy player.
      They will pairing games for the far away games in GDA just like in ECNL, to make travel easier and cheaper.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        They will pairing games for the far away games in GDA just like in ECNL, to make travel easier and cheaper.
        If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then ...... so, what exactly is GDA going to do differently than ECNL?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How can you include parental costs for ECNL but not DA? Can't ECNL parents skip if they want to save $ too? I think they discourage parental involvement so their supreme authority is never questioned and you can't see all of the crap. I have always felt that our club's standoff attitude toward parents was because they were hiding something and do not want to be called out for questionable behaviors.
          Parent coats should always be excluded in comparisons because it's always oprional.

          As for "optiinal" showcases since when are DA eventa optiinal? Oh yeah, they're not. or not attending an ECNL event? Yes some recruited players may skip but not many. Older teams wouldn't even have enough players if all recruited players skipped. plus college coaches often check in on their recruits at the events.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then ...... so, what exactly is GDA going to do differently than ECNL?
            There are very few differences despite protestations to the contrary

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              There are very few differences despite protestations to the contrary
              2-3 mandatory showcase appearances a year is a pretty big difference.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                There are very few differences despite protestations to the contrary
                A few GDA look to be very different as they are funded by rich patrons. But overall it seems the two will be pretty similar.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  In ECNL LEAGUE play, you can easily accommodate the whole league schedule with about about 3-4 nights of hotels (mostly only a Saturday night stay for 2 games) for games since they pair them up (PA/NJ, NY/NJ, WNY (this year), CT can drive each day). Please let us know about the single, league game travel schedules for a U16 academy player.
                  The league travel should be similar between the two leagues. It is the requirement to attend 3-4 showcases a year that is different. If they run it like the BDA the GDA will have only have 2 showcases which includes their playoffs and if a team actually makes it to the championship round USSF picks up the cost of the team's travel.

                  http://www.ussoccerda.com/overview-academy-structure

                  The U-15/16 & U-17/18 age groups will compete in both Playoffs and other postseason play. All teams will compete within their age group in the Academy Playoffs for one of eight spots in the Academy Championships. Teams that advance from the Academy Playoffs could expect to play up to three (3) additional games.

                  The U-15/16 & U-17/18 age groups will also compete in two (2) National Showcase events throughout the Academy season concluding with the Academy Championships in mid-July.
                  • Winter Showcase
                  • Summer Showcase and Playoffs
                  • Academy Championships*

                  *U.S. Soccer will cover all travel expenses to Championships for Academy teams that qualify for the event

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    2-3 mandatory showcase appearances a year is a pretty big difference.
                    Right from their presentation, looks like 3 showcases to me:

                    Northeast I Atlantic Coast Areas:
                    20-24 Regular Season Games; 29-33 total games

                    Sept. 2- Nov. 19
                    Fall Season
                    (lD-15 games)

                    Prep
                    Dec. 7-11
                    Winter
                    Showcase
                    Transition

                    Jan. 20 -June 3
                    *Spring start date *Date/location TBD *Dates/locations TBD
                    determined by weather
                    Spring Season
                    (lD-15 games)

                    April. 2017
                    Spring
                    Showcase

                    June & Julv. 2017
                    Playoffs/Showcase
                    & Championships

                    • Regular season schedule will be aligned for all 3 age groups
                    • All age groups will attend each of the 3 Academy events

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      A few GDA look to be very different as they are funded by rich patrons. But overall it seems the two will be pretty similar.
                      Things are very different from the ECNL. Below is the BDA regulations manual. Are any of the local ECNL putting this much training in?

                      https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/ddh3x...c3dep1i97t0q5h

                      [quote]
                      Development

                      1. Training Days: Each Academy team at the U-13, U-14, U-15/16 and U-17/18 age groups is expected to hold at least four training sessions per week while the team is competing during the Academy Season. Teams competing in the U-12 age group are required to train a minimum of three times per week throughout the duration of the season.

                      2. Rest Days: Each Academy team at the U-13, U-14, U-15/16 and U-17/18 age groups is expected to provide at least one day of rest per week during the Academy Season. The U-12 age group is expected to provide at least two days of rest per week during the Academy Season.
                      [quote]

                      For those worrying about JD not putting his top players in the program or not following the prescribed training program, how long do you think that NEFC will allow that to happen without reporting him?

                      CLUB NON-FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES
                      A. Compliance with Rules & Regulations: Academy Clubs are required to comply with these Regulations, the U.S. Soccer Development Academy Disciplinary Code and any other rules adopted for the U.S. Soccer Development Academy. In addition, Academy Clubs are encouraged to report pertinent situations to the Academy Staff, which appear to be in non-compliance with the Academy Requirements. Reporting non-compliance on the part of other Academy Clubs should not be viewed as a negative, but rather as a positive attempt to maintain consistent standards that ensure professionalism and fairness, both on and off the field.

                      All Clubs are required to adhere to the Academy requirements. The Academy Staff reserves the right to decide how to enforce these requirements. Should an Academy Club be found in violation of any of the requirements outlined in this document, their standing as an Academy Club may be jeopardized. The penalties vary based on the type and frequency of the infraction, and may result in denied participation in Academy-specific competitions and programming.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The league travel should be similar between the two leagues. It is the requirement to attend 3-4 showcases a year that is different. If they run it like the BDA the GDA will have only have 2 showcases which includes their playoffs and if a team actually makes it to the championship round USSF picks up the cost of the team's travel.

                        http://www.ussoccerda.com/overview-academy-structure
                        https://bsbproduction.s3.amazonaws.c...ew%202%201.pdf

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                          I think that the sooner folks realize that both the DA and ECNL leagues are very similar, and will both viefor the top dog status nationally, with the winner TBD. Beyond that, it is a choice as to the path you want to take. Most NT prospects will likely converge to DA teams, with the rest of the top level players splitting between the two leagues. Those players will just have to decide which club, coach, team they prefer, which is no different than what you had this year with three local ECNL teams.

                          What you see on TS is folks bashing the other leagues, to help sell their own league, or justify their choices. It's the old Potato-potahto scenario like it is every single year before it.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Right from their presentation, looks like 3 showcases to me:

                            Northeast I Atlantic Coast Areas:
                            20-24 Regular Season Games; 29-33 total games

                            Sept. 2- Nov. 19
                            Fall Season
                            (lD-15 games)

                            Prep
                            Dec. 7-11
                            Winter
                            Showcase
                            Transition

                            Jan. 20 -June 3
                            *Spring start date *Date/location TBD *Dates/locations TBD
                            determined by weather
                            Spring Season
                            (lD-15 games)

                            April. 2017
                            Spring
                            Showcase

                            June & Julv. 2017
                            Playoffs/Showcase
                            & Championships

                            • Regular season schedule will be aligned for all 3 age groups
                            • All age groups will attend each of the 3 Academy events
                            Still less than the ECNL though. Also 33 games is a lot less than what most of these kids are playing now so that should help to cut down the number of injuries as well.

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                              Pretty safe to say that the teams from both the ECNL and DA clubs are in that $7K+ field.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Pretty safe to say that the teams from both the ECNL and DA clubs are in that $7K+ field.
                                Oh to be at one of those fully funded DAs. Those will be some teams!

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