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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    ecnl
    gal
    ecnl-r
    dpl
    npl
    So has this changed as the dust has settled in the last few months? Does NPL even really exist this fall?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So has this changed as the dust has settled in the last few months? Does NPL even really exist this fall?
      ecnl
      ecnl-r
      Edp
      gal
      dpl

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        ecnl
        ecnl-r
        Edp
        gal
        dpl
        No, seriously.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          No, seriously.
          Ecnl



          GAL

          EDP
          DPL
          NEP

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Are you coaches ever asked the question: If GA is a good league, why does the club apply for ECNL membership every year?
            How do you know they apply?

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              #66
              Keep in mind that the "top teams" aren't selected only on talent. It comes at a huge commitment and price in time and money and what the kids give up. And they are partly a vanity project for the kids' parents, and a shot at a college career for some.

              Plus it's mostly irrelevant to the sport at large in MA and NE, because it's so small:

              ECNL - 3 teams at 2 clubs in MA (out of 9 teams in this region)
              GAL - 2 teams in MA (out of 8)

              There are so many more clubs in NEP, and quite a few in EDP though who really knows since they don't have a league really. Sure, the average team would get beat down by ECNL or GAL. But there are many kids and likely a few teams that would match up OK with ECNL and GAL.

              Not every player wants to do ECNL or GAL.

              So sure, if you don't count all those kids. There are at least as many excellent players not in ECNL/GAL as there are players in those leagues.

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                #67
                ^^. Agree. MOST of your top players play in top leagues. The bottom of the rosters are better in top leagues.

                The 50-75% in the middle are interchangeable. Their place on those teams is determined by logistics, realistic opportunity, and finances vs pure talent.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Can someone explain to a new parent the difference between DPL and ECNL and NPL? I am so confused. Our club announced today they are excited to be part of DPL. I guess that is a good thing but what does it mean?
                  Just another set of initials for anyone who thinks their kid is a superstar or will pay to have someone tell them they are......

                  Its a joke DA, ecnl, ECNL-Regional, DPL, NPL, GA, GDA.

                  Girls and boys are not the same level of play.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    ^^. Agree. MOST of your top players play in top leagues. The bottom of the rosters are better in top leagues.

                    The 50-75% in the middle are interchangeable. Their place on those teams is determined by logistics, realistic opportunity, and finances vs pure talent.
                    I agree with your concept, of course there a plenty of qualified PLAYERS sprinkled around various leagues that could contribute to an ECNL or DA team. The concept of there being an equivalent TEAM is a stretch. The middle of the rosters are NOT interchangeable. Given the waiting list for an ECNL/GA team (ecrl, etc.) the big difference between those top teams and all others is the bottom of the roster. Sure the great athlete who rules the field could play ECNL/DA but she would most likely find herself fighting for PT in the middle of the roster, simply because she hasn't had enough experience playing with and against a field full of players as athletic as her.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I agree with your concept, of course there a plenty of qualified PLAYERS sprinkled around various leagues that could contribute to an ECNL or DA team. The concept of there being an equivalent TEAM is a stretch. The middle of the rosters are NOT interchangeable. Given the waiting list for an ECNL/GA team (ecrl, etc.) the big difference between those top teams and all others is the bottom of the roster. Sure the great athlete who rules the field could play ECNL/DA but she would most likely find herself fighting for PT in the middle of the roster, simply because she hasn't had enough experience playing with and against a field full of players as athletic as her.
                      There are certainly lots of good players who aren't playing ECNL/GA for all sorts of reasons. That being said, as time wears on they usually fall behind, in large part because practicing and playing against consistently strong players is a huge advantage. By the time they are a year or so into high school there are still some who could crack an ECNL/GA roster but not very many that would be one of the better players on the roster. Those who think there are probably haven't experienced it. I know what it's like to think your kid is a world-beater and then watch them play at the next level up and wonder what happened to them when suddenly faced with the game being played at a different pace, level of physicality etc. But as someone else pointed out, we're only talking about a few teams vs. the dozens of teams that really are MA youth soccer. Even the big ECNL/GA clubs might have 5-10+ non-ECNL/GA teams at a given age group for every ECNL/GA team.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So has this changed as the dust has settled in the last few months? Does NPL even really exist this fall?
                        I think some of the strong DPL teams would easily beat the ECNL -R teams here in MA

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                          #72
                          I’ve seen girls that left for Ecnl years ago.Same team as my kid in high school ,not even close to the same technical abilities.Coaching matters not league.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I’ve seen girls that left for Ecnl years ago.Same team as my kid in high school ,not even close to the same technical abilities.Coaching matters not league.
                            Listening to someone crow about their kid's technical abilities and "soccer IQ" is this stage of life's equivalent to hearing a (not hot) girl described as having really pretty eyes and being so cool.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Listening to someone crow about their kid's technical abilities and "soccer IQ" is this stage of life's equivalent to hearing a (not hot) girl described as having really pretty eyes and being so cool.
                              The problem is when you get super technical kids with no IQ or athleticism. No idea what to do with that.

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                                #75
                                What if you have both ,you don’t need Ecnl you need a coach .

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