Got Soccer Rankings

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You actually think that coaches know where teams are ranked? They don't know and don't care. They do know where the top bracket teams are playing at a given tournament. They also know that if a kid contacts them and tells them that they're playing PDA's top team at a particular event - that the player will be facing good competition and it's worth seeing. If a player says that they're playing the 6th ranked team and it's some club the coach has never heard of, he might be pretty skeptical about what kind of test the kid will get.

See this is so misleading. Because the type of college coaches you are talking about here is for like the top 25 RPI teams in the country. There are plenty of college coaches below that or in D2 and D3 that will scout players at lower brackets of the big showcases.

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You actually think that coaches know where teams are ranked? They don't know and don't care. They do know where the top bracket teams are playing at a given tournament. They also know that if a kid contacts them and tells them that they're playing PDA's top team at a particular event - that the player will be facing good competition and it's worth seeing. If a player says that they're playing the 6th ranked team and it's some club the coach has never heard of, he might be pretty skeptical about what kind of test the kid will get.

See this is so misleading. Because the type of college coaches you are talking about here is for like the top 25 RPI teams in the country. There are plenty of college coaches below that or in D2 and D3 that will scout players at lower brackets of the big showcases.

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See this is so misleading. Because the type of college coaches you are talking about here is for like the top 25 RPI teams in the country. There are plenty of college coaches below that or in D2 and D3 that will scout players at lower brackets of the big showcases.

Probably top 100; not just limited to top 25. But I get your point. Yes, many kids playing and many colleges need players. I can't imagine any college coach relying on any GS ranking because of all of the games and leagues not picked up by them. GS rankings are very misleading.

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Probably top 100; not just limited to top 25. But I get your point. Yes, many kids playing and many colleges need players. I can't imagine any college coach relying on any GS ranking because of all of the games and leagues not picked up by them. GS rankings are very misleading.

That's my point its just annoying to me like if "Got Soccer" gonna rank teams at least try to do it somewhat right, but obviously all they care about is selling their software.

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Gotsoccer rankings are a joke but sometimes used. Point hounds enter crap tournaments for points to build up to enter bigger Tournaments like Jefferson cup, etc. The tournament sometimes use them because they really have no way of knowing how good every team is so they need some form of benchmark. If you look in got soccer team that as a win rate of 45% is higher than a team with a win rate of 80% Because the 45% team entered 20 tournaments versus 10 tournaments. It is pretty amazing how excited people get when they say we’re number one or we’re number five but in reality everyone knows their full of crap. All that being said still fun to look at once in a while

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TBH there method of ranking would actually be somewhat interesting and cool if they were just more consistent with every team.

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Youthsoccerrankings.us is actually the ranking system most accurately displaying ranking and most commonly used as a reference point for people who know what they are talking out. The disparities between the two are large for national rankings but regionally usually closer. The point system calculation takes into account sandbagging, etc. Where gotsoccer is more of a summation of points where you can have a crap win ratio but play 50 games and get points. Both have their flaws but at the end of the day one could argue that a blend of the two would be ideal. If someone can write complex algorithms beyond what already exists with proofs, then you just made yourself some money. When in doubt look at both you will be shocked at some of the variances

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You actually think that coaches know where teams are ranked?

No, you ****ing dummy, I don't think college coaches know or care, but club coaches and parents do. You know, the whole ****ing point. As someone else noted, they're somewhat helpful for a tournament organizer to manage flight placement. For talking soccer banter, as an example of the fixation on teams and the way teams are discussed, they're absolutely pointless.

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Youthsoccerrankings.us is actually the ranking system most accurately displaying ranking and most commonly used as a reference point for people who know what they are talking out. The disparities between the two are large for national rankings but regionally usually closer. The point system calculation takes into account sandbagging, etc. Where gotsoccer is more of a summation of points where you can have a crap win ratio but play 50 games and get points. Both have their flaws but at the end of the day one could argue that a blend of the two would be ideal. If someone can write complex algorithms beyond what already exists with proofs, then you just made yourself some money. When in doubt look at both you will be shocked at some of the variances

I gave it a whirl yesterday. No, those are not very accurate. It included more teams but the "rankings" were so bad I actually laughed at it.

The problem with all rankings is year-to-year rollover of teams/introduction of new teams.

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I gave it a whirl yesterday. No, those are not very accurate. It included more teams but the "rankings" were so bad I actually laughed at it.

The problem with all rankings is year-to-year rollover of teams/introduction of new teams.

Exactly. Youthsoccerrankings site isn't any better as far as accuracy than GotSoccer.

As you noted, just more inclusive (ECNL and GDA). However, doesn't pick up all games and may list teams multiple times. In order to catch all the leagues, an NCAA style collection system would be needed (one centralized area where all the leagues report). And the NCAA is the governing body so that is why all must report to it. Youth Soccer reports to several (USSF, US Club, etc.). And, they don't get along as it is.

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It's provided the ability for kids to have access to training and a managed program that was not available previously to many. The fitness testing and program alone has been worth it. It's given our team an avenue to not be playing the Aztecs of the world and instead into games where they are much more competitive.

While there are other avenues out there, they are too restrictive and push a travel agenda that others were forced to replicate.

GDA is the result of a process that was broken. You can't blame them because the previous entity fvcked it up for 10 years.

What a bunch of nonsense. The best players play HS and they have waivers. The managed program is when all involved are there and they don't skip training for winter sports. And if the landscape was broken, now it is even in worse shape

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What a bunch of nonsense. The best players play HS and they have waivers. The managed program is when all involved are there and they don't skip training for winter sports. And if the landscape was broken, now it is even in worse shape

Some refuse the waivers because not all HS is good soccer. It is mostly kick and fetch. I do agree that the landscape is horribly broken to the detriment of the players.

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Also GS promotes nothing but travel for the points to be #1 in the universe or galaxy. Hilarious.

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Some refuse the waivers because not all HS is good soccer. It is mostly kick and fetch. I do agree that the landscape is horribly broken to the detriment of the players.

No one refuses a waiver - they have to request it - proves don’t take any guidance from here -
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No one refuses a waiver - they have to request it - proves don’t take any guidance from here -
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Likely you are quibbling over minor details.

The crux of the post was that not all players want to take the risk of playing HS, so the comment "all the good players play HS" is not accurate.

True, nobody "refuses" a waiver; they just don't ask for one.