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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    As other posters have said, many extremely qualified kids don't get accepted. Making it personal against someone is poor form. My son got in but I happen to agree with the in state/ out of state debate. If a 4.3/33 ACT with IB classes is not good enough to get into UF, there is a problem somewhere.
    No it simply isn't good enough. You can't seem to accept that. The reality is what it is in the here and now, not what it took to get in 5 or 10 years ago. The university wants smart kids form all over. If FL kids can't compete then they can't compete. This is the reality of life. It will have disappointments. Get the fuk over it and move on instead of wallowing in self pity and blaming someone else. You're setting a great example for your kid - wah wah wah wah

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      No it simply isn't good enough. You can't seem to accept that. The reality is what it is in the here and now, not what it took to get in 5 or 10 years ago. The university wants smart kids form all over. If FL kids can't compete then they can't compete. This is the reality of life. It will have disappointments. Get the fuk over it and move on instead of wallowing in self pity and blaming someone else. You're setting a great example for your kid - wah wah wah wah

      The fact that you are making this personal only shows you are promoting a weak argument. Agree with the other posters. UF may want academically strong students from all over but passing up on equally qualified Florida Students to do so is not acceptable. I have friends who have been involved in the admittance guidelines. UF has tiers which applicants get put into A, B, C etc. Within those tiers are some sub-tiers. The take so many of each.

      Your position is not only wrong, it shows your ignorance and arrogance. If your student did get in, hope you gave full credit to your wife since your student clearly inherited his/her intelligence from her.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The fact that you are making this personal only shows you are promoting a weak argument. Agree with the other posters. UF may want academically strong students from all over but passing up on equally qualified Florida Students to do so is not acceptable. I have friends who have been involved in the admittance guidelines. UF has tiers which applicants get put into A, B, C etc. Within those tiers are some sub-tiers. The take so many of each.

        Your position is not only wrong, it shows your ignorance and arrogance. If your student did get in, hope you gave full credit to your wife since your student clearly inherited his/her intelligence from her.
        "Not acceptable" to whom? You? Admissions goes to great lengths to ensure a diverse student population in every way, that means accepting out of state students just like international and minorities. Part of the college experience is interaction with students form other countries, other ethnicities, even other states. Based on your criteria of who is most qualified (test scores and GPA), they would fill the school with nothing but white females from Florida.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          "Not acceptable" to whom? You? Admissions goes to great lengths to ensure a diverse student population in every way, that means accepting out of state students just like international and minorities. Part of the college experience is interaction with students form other countries, other ethnicities, even other states. Based on your criteria of who is most qualified (test scores and GPA), they would fill the school with nothing but white females from Florida.
          Not acceptable to most people not arguing to see UF become an Ivy League want to be. Florida has more diversity than most states so your comment is very narrow minded. The Florida public school system may not be the bests best but they still turn out a large number of top end students from a wide variety of backgrounds. It is an economic issue not a diversity issue. Diversity is just the blanket used to excuse chasing money. And no, it is not acceptable.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The complaint is that they accept too many out of state students who don't accept, shutting out in -tate students. Have a wait list and take one student off every time another declines. Other top schools have figured this out. It isn't that hard
            Yes! Watched over a hundred magna cum laude students graduate and only a few attending UF.? In state students admitted to UF but choosing FSU, MIT, Georgia Tech.. over UF , and they applied knowing they weren’t going to ever attend UF. A waiting list might have helped our daughter graduating with a 4.5 who was denied but who did want to attend UF.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Signed,

              I got my degree on line.
              Wrong but thanks for playing!

              I'd rather have an online degree from Cornell than a campus degree from UCF. Of course the degrees don't actually say where you were when you earned a degree so who gives a fuch grampa.

              It's too bad we won't have to walk 2 miles in the snow, uphill ( both ways) to University anymore but welcome to the 21st century Pops. It's called the internet . . . Read up on it. It is changing the world.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Wrong but thanks for playing!

                I'd rather have an online degree from Cornell than a campus degree from UCF. Of course the degrees don't actually say where you were when you earned a degree so who gives a fuch grampa.

                It's too bad we won't have to walk 2 miles in the snow, uphill ( both ways) to University anymore but welcome to the 21st century Pops. It's called the internet . . . Read up on it. It is changing the world.

                Signed,

                University of Phoenix grad

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Wrong but thanks for playing!

                  I'd rather have an online degree from Cornell than a campus degree from UCF. Of course the degrees don't actually say where you were when you earned a degree so who gives a fuch grampa.

                  It's too bad we won't have to walk 2 miles in the snow, uphill ( both ways) to University anymore but welcome to the 21st century Pops. It's called the internet . . . Read up on it. It is changing the world.
                  In a job interview you might be asked what did you do at Cornell. Were you involved, did you have any group projects or research of impacting value, did you have hand on internships? College is the next building the resume place to then compete for a job. Most don't care where the degree comes from but can you do the job. UCF prides itself on its internships. You act like there aren't talented and successful students at UCF. Take a look at what UCF alumni are accomplishing in Florida.

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                    The soccer seniors. Where they going to play or be a normal students? Any going to Florida top universities?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      In a job interview you might be asked what did you do at Cornell. Were you involved, did you have any group projects or research of impacting value, did you have hand on internships? College is the next building the resume place to then compete for a job. Most don't care where the degree comes from but can you do the job. UCF prides itself on its internships. You act like there aren't talented and successful students at UCF. Take a look at what UCF alumni are accomplishing in Florida.

                      He must be talking about Cornell College, not Cornell University. Cornell University offers online classes and summer session like most schools. The other option is an executive certificate which is designed to help graduate professionals but assuredly NOT a degree.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        In a job interview you might be asked what did you do at Cornell. Were you involved, did you have any group projects or research of impacting value, did you have hand on internships? College is the next building the resume place to then compete for a job. Most don't care where the degree comes from but can you do the job. UCF prides itself on its internships. You act like there aren't talented and successful students at UCF. Take a look at what UCF alumni are accomplishing in Florida.
                        This is all fresh at our house because my son just interviewed for a Summer Internship with one of the largest engineering firms in the Tampa Bay Region. He happens to attend UF. He was shuffled around to interview with 5 people: office manager, a few project managers, I.T. director and a field crew foreman. All five commented that they went to UF too.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          This is all fresh at our house because my son just interviewed for a Summer Internship with one of the largest engineering firms in the Tampa Bay Region. He happens to attend UF. He was shuffled around to interview with 5 people: office manager, a few project managers, I.T. director and a field crew foreman. All five commented that they went to UF too.
                          UCF started as an engineering school and is known for it. Also students are getting five to ten offers before they even graduate from UNF because of their internships and the market area. Get near the big cities for those college internships.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Yes! Watched over a hundred magna cum laude students graduate and only a few attending UF.? In state students admitted to UF but choosing FSU, MIT, Georgia Tech.. over UF , and they applied knowing they weren’t going to ever attend UF. A waiting list might have helped our daughter graduating with a 4.5 who was denied but who did want to attend UF.
                            Yes, the system sucks. If 4.4 is the mean, then who are the other 50% of applicants that get admitted?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Yes, the system sucks. If 4.4 is the mean, then who are the other 50% of applicants that get admitted?
                              90% could be at 4.4. Surely lots of 4.6 and 4.7 juniors admitted to balance out the juniors who were admitted with lower than the mean. There are too many smart white females and if they aren’t at the mean when they apply then forget it. Have a friend whose daughter was challenging herself with classes like AP chem and was in gifted classes from K. The parents won’t let their daughter apply to UF because they know the high school is one of the best public high schools and she has a 4.3 but ranked 50th in class and won’t even be considered by UF. Only the top 5% get admitted and she isn’t in a unique tier but the white female tier to never have a chance.

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                                The whole thing is weird. Students rejected at FSU got into UF and same at UCF. Their must be some diversity or money factors coming into which tiers they are in before their names get picked like in a lottery. UCF has a mean 4.0 admittance GPA so students with 4.4 are there too to keep up the mean.

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