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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    They assaulted her. That is never ok. A little elbow jab, ankle slice...not beating an opponent in the head.
    maybe not in your world, but they killed a girl in nyc for whatever cash she had in her pocket. in comparison, this girl was acting the fool and being physical and she got her bell rung by a kid that wasnt having it. Now she is hiding behind her fat mom who wants to make a big deal out of it because her kid lost. Had her kid landed a few blows, she would have said it was no big deal.

    You mess with the bull, expect to get the horns sweetie

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Agree that it’s a culture by some coaches. However, the refs have all the power. If the refs enforced the laws of the game, like they mostly do on the boys’ side, that kind of culture would be squashed pretty quickly. If rules aren’t enforced, the bad fouling is allowed to flourish.
      It happens more when you have the top teams vs the middle of the pack teams. The middle of the pack teams are usually desperate to pick up some wins to try and make conference playoffs or states so looking to take down teams ahead of them. So then you see the middle of the pack teams going after some of the better players on the other team to try and slow things down and make it a rock fight. Refs rarely good enough to control it. Ugly to watch.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        maybe not in your world, but they killed a girl in nyc for whatever cash she had in her pocket. in comparison, this girl was acting the fool and being physical and she got her bell rung by a kid that wasnt having it. Now she is hiding behind her fat mom who wants to make a big deal out of it because her kid lost. Had her kid landed a few blows, she would have said it was no big deal.

        You mess with the bull, expect to get the horns sweetie
        Sounds like someone's little girl got in trouble for this gutless act

        Getting your bell rung and getting a beatdown by 2 individuals are not remotely the same.

        Neither are fistfights and murder.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          maybe not in your world, but they killed a girl in nyc for whatever cash she had in her pocket. in comparison, this girl was acting the fool and being physical and she got her bell rung by a kid that wasnt having it. Now she is hiding behind her fat mom who wants to make a big deal out of it because her kid lost. Had her kid landed a few blows, she would have said it was no big deal.

          You mess with the bull, expect to get the horns sweetie
          What if it was just hood rats acting like hood rats- that’s also a possibility
          Either way stomping the shut out of someone is never appropriate and they should face the consequences
          Hockey fights have a code of conduct- this is girls soccer try and act a little feminine

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            maybe not in your world, but they killed a girl in nyc for whatever cash she had in her pocket. in comparison, this girl was acting the fool and being physical and she got her bell rung by a kid that wasnt having it. Now she is hiding behind her fat mom who wants to make a big deal out of it because her kid lost. Had her kid landed a few blows, she would have said it was no big deal.

            You mess with the bull, expect to get the horns sweetie
            Since when is it ok to concuss someone? It isn't.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Since when is it ok to concuss someone? It isn't.
              It is if they deserve it and there are usually very different versions of the same story from each side ..... We only got one version.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It is if they deserve it and there are usually very different versions of the same story from each side ..... We only got one version.
                I think the police got both versions and they decided to arrest someone

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I think the police got both versions and they decided to arrest someone
                  Nah, they heard the losers version. Concussion occurs when fists are thrown and you can’t protect yourself. She didn’t get stomped out. She got straight up beat. Teammates should have had her back, unless they knew she was being a b and deserved it. They let her get beat down

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It is if they deserve it and there are usually very different versions of the same story from each side ..... We only got one version.
                    There is no other side. Two players beat up another. Stop trying to justify it. Players talk smack, maybe deserve something back,. But this was two players beating another in the head. Its hardly a swift elbow in the back

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                      #40
                      The Logical Voice

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      But she didn’t get kicked off the team!
                      https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...outputType=amp

                      She was only held out of 2 games and then back like she did nothing! Unbelievable. If a guy had done those fouls, there would’ve been refs flying everywhere with more than 2 games suspension for each occurrence.
                      It's my understanding that the appropriate people from the CIAC, NVL and the schools all met (including students) and hashed the whole issue out in an effort to move forward and past it. I'm sure the punishment given was part of whatever agreement was made in all that. My understanding is also that Torrington chose to forfeit the return match because Derby would not agree in advance to hold this player out of the game.

                      Referees don't decide the punishment. That belongs to the league officials first and foremost, under the overall guidance of the CIAC.

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                        #41
                        The Logical Voice

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Coach is an idiot to keep such a player. Why risk constant red cards? Is that the kind of player you want on your team? There's other players out there that don't have to resort to trash play. Or maybe the coach likes MMA soccer.

                        Do you know the school's athletic department policy on such matters? What makes you think they did not follow their own policies here? Maybe the coach doesn't have the discretionary freedom to make that choice. Maybe there's Athletic Directors and Principals involved here who feel it better for that player to face the consequences in such a way that she learns from it and actually becomes a bit better person for it.

                        Have you actually looked at the size of the program at that school? I believe they don't even play a JV schedule. Perhaps the belief there was that it was better for their program to deal with it as they did.

                        We sit on the outside of these situations, lacking the facts and perspective needed to understand the decisions being made, but more than willing to draw conclusions anyway. Who are any of us to judge this? I'm certain the both schools took actions they thought in the best interest of their athletes and their programs and their schools.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Do you know the school's athletic department policy on such matters? What makes you think they did not follow their own policies here? Maybe the coach doesn't have the discretionary freedom to make that choice. Maybe there's Athletic Directors and Principals involved here who feel it better for that player to face the consequences in such a way that she learns from it and actually becomes a bit better person for it.

                          Have you actually looked at the size of the program at that school? I believe they don't even play a JV schedule. Perhaps the belief there was that it was better for their program to deal with it as they did.

                          We sit on the outside of these situations, lacking the facts and perspective needed to understand the decisions being made, but more than willing to draw conclusions anyway. Who are any of us to judge this? I'm certain the both schools took actions they thought in the best interest of their athletes and their programs and their schools.
                          I find it hard to believe that the policy says watch your players beat an opposing player down, high five them when they come to the sideline and proceed as business as usual

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                            #43
                            Suspect the accused will claim the victim used a racial slur or other trigger word, so it was really the victim’s fault.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Do you know the school's athletic department policy on such matters? What makes you think they did not follow their own policies here? Maybe the coach doesn't have the discretionary freedom to make that choice. Maybe there's Athletic Directors and Principals involved here who feel it better for that player to face the consequences in such a way that she learns from it and actually becomes a bit better person for it.

                              Have you actually looked at the size of the program at that school? I believe they don't even play a JV schedule. Perhaps the belief there was that it was better for their program to deal with it as they did.

                              We sit on the outside of these situations, lacking the facts and perspective needed to understand the decisions being made, but more than willing to draw conclusions anyway. Who are any of us to judge this? I'm certain the both schools took actions they thought in the best interest of their athletes and their programs and their schools.
                              Most schools would not be ok with a student athlete making national news for being a thug. The coach knew that's how she played and allowed it many times before that. Is that the kind of coach you want at a manor D1 program? That she received essentially no punishment says more about the school, the AD and the coach - "We don't care. Do you?"

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Most schools would not be ok with a student athlete making national news for being a thug. The coach knew that's how she played and allowed it many times before that. Is that the kind of coach you want at a manor D1 program? That she received essentially no punishment says more about the school, the AD and the coach - "We don't care. Do you?"
                                “ Is that the kind of coach you want at a manor D1 program?”

                                Huh??

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