Hartford Athletic Academy ?????

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Once this develops further, a merger with MLS clubs makes the most sense. If you take MLS clubs (30), USL Championship (34 and growing) and USL League One (10 and growing) - you end up with a league of 75+ professional clubs with academies.

Some of these academies will be free to play, some will be partially subsidized, and some will be pay to play - most importantly all academies will be part of professional soccer organizations that will be incentivized to develop players (remember they now have access to solidarity payments and training compensation).This structure will resemble much of the rest of the world.

Once this is off the ground, ECNL and others will remain pay to play and serve primarily as feeder systems for college bound players.

Sounds a lot like DA ... how did that work out? The fundamental difference now is that any cast offs from DA will likely try to make a move to the nearest MLS academy team if it is an option (and under 90 minute drive is an option for some crazy people), stay at their club (whatever league they choose), or, they will go to the nearest ECNL club (or other options that are close and pretty decent). Going to an unproven, start up C-league team is likely the last option on the list. Oh yeah, and no chance any USL teams give that away for free .... none can afford it. NONE!

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https://www.usl-academy.com/about

Once this develops further, a merger with MLS clubs makes the most sense. If you take MLS clubs (30), USL Championship (34 and growing) and USL League One (10 and growing) - you end up with a league of 75+ professional clubs with academies.

Some of these academies will be free to play, some will be partially subsidized, and some will be pay to play - most importantly all academies will be part of professional soccer organizations that will be incentivized to develop players (remember they now have access to solidarity payments and training compensation).This structure will resemble much of the rest of the world.

Once this is off the ground, ECNL and others will remain pay to play and serve primarily as feeder systems for college bound players.

u can link to hopes and dreams but ain't no way there's enough dough in these clubs to do what u think they can do. training compensation? haha, MLS clubs *maybe* will be cat 2 and get $40k/yr, but USL? will be lucky to get $10k/yr. So for that one kid that goes pro u get like $60k? and meanwhile you've trained 16 kids for 6 years for free? great biz model and good luck with financing. oh, but you say, what about solidarity payments? ok sure, let's go there. let's assume some enterprising USL club develops Christian Pulisic. I think we all agree that the best pros will get to Europe by their 16th birthday. But the lucky Pittsburgh Riverhounds get payments for years 12-15 -- 5% of 5% per year (0.25%), for a total of 1% of the $73mm transfer fee, or $730,000. Hey, not bad! BUT THAT'S FOR THE BEST AMERICAN PROSPECT TO PLAY IN EUROPE IN A DECADE! And, oh, it comes over 5 years after he left the program.

show me the financials of these rich USL owners that will fund free academies and i'll have rocco commissio give 'em a call to tell 'em what fcuking idiots they are...

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oh and i'll just add that bethlehem just announced a name change to philly union II. so 3 of the 4 USL clubs in NE are just B teams for MLS clubs. not sure they will support 2 academies versus having just more options to send players but hey man you seem to know this secret MLS/USL "pro" academy plan better than anyone so please enlighten.

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u can link to hopes and dreams but ain't no way there's enough dough in these clubs to do what u think they can do. training compensation? haha, MLS clubs *maybe* will be cat 2 and get $40k/yr, but USL? will be lucky to get $10k/yr. So for that one kid that goes pro u get like $60k? and meanwhile you've trained 16 kids for 6 years for free? great biz model and good luck with financing. oh, but you say, what about solidarity payments? ok sure, let's go there. let's assume some enterprising USL club develops Christian Pulisic. I think we all agree that the best pros will get to Europe by their 16th birthday. But the lucky Pittsburgh Riverhounds get payments for years 12-15 -- 5% of 5% per year (0.25%), for a total of 1% of the $73mm transfer fee, or $730,000. Hey, not bad! BUT THAT'S FOR THE BEST AMERICAN PROSPECT TO PLAY IN EUROPE IN A DECADE! And, oh, it comes over 5 years after he left the program.

show me the financials of these rich USL owners that will fund free academies and i'll have rocco commissio give 'em a call to tell 'em what fcuking idiots they are...

No one said usl would be free, probably just MLS. But USL could charge a price where they break even and it would still be less than what some of these clubs charge now.

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No one said usl would be free, probably just MLS. But USL could charge a price where they break even and it would still be less than what some of these clubs charge now.

It would probably strengthen the DA system if you dropped all non-pro DA clubs and replaced them with the USL clubs. USL is growing big time.

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u can link to hopes and dreams but ain't no way there's enough dough in these clubs to do what u think they can do. training compensation? haha, MLS clubs *maybe* will be cat 2 and get $40k/yr, but USL? will be lucky to get $10k/yr. So for that one kid that goes pro u get like $60k? and meanwhile you've trained 16 kids for 6 years for free? great biz model and good luck with financing. oh, but you say, what about solidarity payments? ok sure, let's go there. let's assume some enterprising USL club develops Christian Pulisic. I think we all agree that the best pros will get to Europe by their 16th birthday. But the lucky Pittsburgh Riverhounds get payments for years 12-15 -- 5% of 5% per year (0.25%), for a total of 1% of the $73mm transfer fee, or $730,000. Hey, not bad! BUT THAT'S FOR THE BEST AMERICAN PROSPECT TO PLAY IN EUROPE IN A DECADE! And, oh, it comes over 5 years after he left the program.

show me the financials of these rich USL owners that will fund free academies and i'll have rocco commissio give 'em a call to tell 'em what fcuking idiots they are...

While you are at it, you may want to ask Rocco how his NASL/Cosmos investment worked out....LOL.

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It would probably strengthen the DA system if you dropped all non-pro DA clubs and replaced them with the USL clubs. USL is growing big time.

right, so in our area we drop:

BWG, MO, Continental FC Delco, PDA, TSF, BSC, FCW, NEFC, NYSC, Oakwood, World Class, Bolts*, Seacoast*, Cedar Stars*

and add:

hartford athletic

cool. cool. sounds competitive.

(*I am assuming USL-2 clubs aren't invited to your pro superleague party unless you want the westchester flames to join too)

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right, so in our area we drop:

BWG, MO, Continental FC Delco, PDA, TSF, BSC, FCW, NEFC, NYSC, Oakwood, World Class, Bolts*, Seacoast*, Cedar Stars*

and add:

hartford athletic

cool. cool. sounds competitive.

(*I am assuming USL-2 clubs aren't invited to your pro superleague party unless you want the westchester flames to join too)

some of those are not like the others. Seacoast, Oakwood, and WC are garbage

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No one said usl would be free, probably just MLS. But USL could charge a price where they break even and it would still be less than what some of these clubs charge now.

why do you think that? what evidence do you have to support that? most DA clubs have extensive premier offerings that help defray expensive field costs. MLS clubs have to pimp themselves to attract pay-to-play premier - and some do better than others - just like non MLS DA programs. why would people flock to a second or third tier pro pay-to-play program that might fold in a year or two?

every kid in DA knows who has the capability to play MLS DA, and over time, it becomes pretty clear who has the capacity to go pro. MLS DA successfully created a parallel DA system with the Fall Cup competition - do they really want to go further? maybe, but i think they'll cut the U13 program first and then in 5-7 years if USL is actually not bankrupt, move to make more changes.

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right, so in our area we drop:

BWG, MO, Continental FC Delco, PDA, TSF, BSC, FCW, NEFC, NYSC, Oakwood, World Class, Bolts*, Seacoast*, Cedar Stars*

and add:

hartford athletic

cool. cool. sounds competitive.

(*I am assuming USL-2 clubs aren't invited to your pro superleague party unless you want the westchester flames to join too)

The writing is on the wall for non MLS DA programs.....they are slowly getting pushed out. This year it was U18/19 and next year it will be the year younger. Where do you think this is headed? The gap between MLS and rest is growing too large....

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u can link to hopes and dreams but ain't no way there's enough dough in these clubs to do what u think they can do. training compensation? haha, MLS clubs *maybe* will be cat 2 and get $40k/yr, but USL? will be lucky to get $10k/yr. So for that one kid that goes pro u get like $60k? and meanwhile you've trained 16 kids for 6 years for free? great biz model and good luck with financing. oh, but you say, what about solidarity payments? ok sure, let's go there. let's assume some enterprising USL club develops Christian Pulisic. I think we all agree that the best pros will get to Europe by their 16th birthday. But the lucky Pittsburgh Riverhounds get payments for years 12-15 -- 5% of 5% per year (0.25%), for a total of 1% of the $73mm transfer fee, or $730,000. Hey, not bad! BUT THAT'S FOR THE BEST AMERICAN PROSPECT TO PLAY IN EUROPE IN A DECADE! And, oh, it comes over 5 years after he left the program.

show me the financials of these rich USL owners that will fund free academies and i'll have rocco commissio give 'em a call to tell 'em what fcuking idiots they are...

https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/01/14...ion-relegation

The article above gives a good summary of where things are headed.....

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The writing is on the wall for non MLS DA programs.....they are slowly getting pushed out. This year it was U18/19 and next year it will be the year younger. Where do you think this is headed? The gap between MLS and rest is growing too large....

When the separation happens - and it will - they will most likely drop the younger teams and run two combined-year older teams. Those are the players they care the most about and it helps with their costs. All the non DA clubs either will have to form their own league or join another. The interests of MLS clubs and USSF do not line up, nor are MLS clubs thrilled with being told what to do by USSF. They want to do things their way. They would need to line up enough USL clubs (which become their feeder teams/farm teams for players 18+), change the competitive structure some to better manage travel.

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https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/01/14...ion-relegation

The article above gives a good summary of where things are headed.....

North of 100 pro clubs in the USA in the next decade. Pro rel between D2 and D3....and maybe to include MLS some day!

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North of 100 pro clubs in the USA in the next decade. Pro rel between D2 and D3....and maybe to include MLS some day!

keep believing in the grift

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Saw a mention of HA open tryouts on the local news this weekend. Are they that desperate for talent?