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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The thought processes shared here is why our national team will continue to struggle and sht the bed against the rest of the world.

    This is a great idea, particularly for those late bloomers who will benefit from year long competitive soccer. As a former D1 player I would have been ecstatic having a year long season. Opens up the door for a whole lot of good. Education will always be there, classes will always be available. Online classes make it even more plausible.
    No. College is for college and college soccer is high school on steroids. The job of college coaches is to win, not develop the men's national team. NT players or professional prospects should be in the pros, not college. USSF needs to figure out its own mess, not look to colleges to help them. In fact I think they dislike college soccer for the he same reasons and equal measure as they do high school

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      #17
      I'm sure all the other sports would like to spread their schedules out too. That's why this won't pass. Accommodate one and you have to accommodate all.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        1. The proposal calls for a reduction in games, not an increase. That would be less travel and accommodations expenses. Specifically, how would they increase?

        2. How does this differ if the season is played over 7 months instead of four, when there will be a clear break between Thanksgiving and spring startup? How does stretching out the season, reducing the number of midweek games and likely adjusting training as well as making more allowance for that exam period just before Christmas undermine the pursuit of an education, regardless of the objective of that education?

        3. How is this any more or any less about soccer than it was before?

        These are pretty broad conclusions on your part, but not real facts or arguments offered to substantiate them.
        It's like Ned's toll only in trucks ..... We can expand it once in place to more roads and all vehicles just get it in place then we can cry that we need more. BS .... I hope it goes in and all other soccer programs in d1, 2, and 3 protest and demand the same .... And then every other sport as well. It's college. Don't like it, play money making sport or go pro.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It's like Ned's toll only in trucks ..... We can expand it once in place to more roads and all vehicles just get it in place then we can cry that we need more. BS .... I hope it goes in and all other soccer programs in d1, 2, and 3 protest and demand the same .... And then every other sport as well. It's college. Don't like it, play money making sport or go pro.
          Baseball should definitely have that .... Much more if a feeder to MLB than NCAA soccer to pro soccer of any leagues What about men's and women's bball?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Two less games per seasonal year. Played across a period of time near double the current period used by the NCAA. Where do the "more overall games" come from? Where does the "more overall travel" come from? Coaches are paid on a salary, not by the hour. They work the full calendar year now. How would there be more coaching salary monies needed?

            Show us some facts before you make such declarations!
            Players wouldn’t want it. They enjoy having a little more free time in the spring. Coaches wouldn’t want it because it would eliminate the possibility of playing players that don’t normally play. And in order to fit it in, they’d have to start playing when the weather was terrible and go until well after the school year was over. Northeast and midwestern schools would be at a severe disadvantage in terms of training. Some winters, they wouldn’t be able to get outdoors until mid- to late March. And if they don’t have an indoor facility, they’d have nowhere to train. This would show the differences between the Power 5 schools and others.

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              #21
              Great Idea

              Too many games crammed into such a short season now.

              This would be better for the players development and physical health.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Great Idea

                Too many games crammed into such a short season now.

                This would be better for the players development and physical health.
                Player improvement is accomplished during the off-season. If there is no off-season, there is no improvement.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Great Idea

                  Too many games crammed into such a short season now.

                  This would be better for the players development and physical health.
                  Compare it to other college sports. It's really not that different in terms of #events vs of #days off in between. Why should soccer be given special treatment? Why can't basketball - which plays nearly twice as many regular season games - not be allowed to be all year?

                  Also, as said above no off season means less rest both physically and mentally.

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                    #24
                    There is a lot of info at this website: https://www.21stcenturymodel.org/

                    As a former college athlete, I really like this proposal. Currently, soccer's regular season is only 72-days. Basketball is A LOT longer than that. Basketball starts practice at end of Sept, first games in November, then postseason in March.

                    During the fall season, there is hardly any time for actual practices once the season starts. You have games Thursday/Sunday. So Monday is a recovery day, Tuesday is regular practice/game prep, Weds is a travel day, Thursday game, Friday recovery, Saturday game prep, Sunday game.

                    Also, when Thursday games are away, that is a lot of school to miss. Spreading out over Fall and Spring eliminates the Thursday games.

                    The only downside for athletes I see are that you will use fewer players on game day since there will be adequate rest. Co-ops and travel abroad will also be affected but maybe there will be some creative solutions for that?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      There is a lot of info at this website: https://www.21stcenturymodel.org/

                      As a former college athlete, I really like this proposal. Currently, soccer's regular season is only 72-days. Basketball is A LOT longer than that. Basketball starts practice at end of Sept, first games in November, then postseason in March.

                      During the fall season, there is hardly any time for actual practices once the season starts. You have games Thursday/Sunday. So Monday is a recovery day, Tuesday is regular practice/game prep, Weds is a travel day, Thursday game, Friday recovery, Saturday game prep, Sunday game.

                      Also, when Thursday games are away, that is a lot of school to miss. Spreading out over Fall and Spring eliminates the Thursday games.

                      The only downside for athletes I see are that you will use fewer players on game day since there will be adequate rest. Co-ops and travel abroad will also be affected but maybe there will be some creative solutions for that?
                      Yes its longer because they have a single season, not a main season and a spring season. I hope they all do it too and bankrupt NCAA sports outside of football and basketball and then the NCAA and all of the colleges and universities give a big FU to all of the other sports and discontinue them. ITS COLLEGE ... NOT A PRO LEAGUE!!!! They are all playing under the same conditions. Any P5 allowed to play two full seasons should not be allowed to play the other disadvantage schools. It's a ridiculous proposal. If soccer wants a semi-pro league besides MLS here in the states then they should sponsor and pay for it entirely.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        There is a lot of info at this website: https://www.21stcenturymodel.org/

                        As a former college athlete, I really like this proposal. Currently, soccer's regular season is only 72-days. Basketball is A LOT longer than that. Basketball starts practice at end of Sept, first games in November, then postseason in March.

                        During the fall season, there is hardly any time for actual practices once the season starts. You have games Thursday/Sunday. So Monday is a recovery day, Tuesday is regular practice/game prep, Weds is a travel day, Thursday game, Friday recovery, Saturday game prep, Sunday game.

                        Also, when Thursday games are away, that is a lot of school to miss. Spreading out over Fall and Spring eliminates the Thursday games.

                        The only downside for athletes I see are that you will use fewer players on game day since there will be adequate rest. Co-ops and travel abroad will also be affected but maybe there will be some creative solutions for that?
                        Basketball has 32 regular season games plus pre-season games and tournaments and postseason. You don't think they'd like to stretch out their season? Hockey has an insane number of games, often back to back. Give it to one sport and you open up the door to having to do it for all. In this day and age with schools under pressure to not raise tuition 5%+ a year, some even considering cutting some athletic teams, the last thing collegiate sports needs is longer seasons.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Basketball has 32 regular season games plus pre-season games and tournaments and postseason. You don't think they'd like to stretch out their season? Hockey has an insane number of games, often back to back. Give it to one sport and you open up the door to having to do it for all. In this day and age with schools under pressure to not raise tuition 5%+ a year, some even considering cutting some athletic teams, the last thing collegiate sports needs is longer seasons.
                          Unlike basketball, you cant play soccer in the northern states reliably between Dec and Feb. This is a forced hiatus. rather than a split season it should just be moved to Spring.

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