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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExactly they lawyered up to ensure they were providing services so argument could not be made that they did not hold up their side of bargain.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think it’s a bit early to be worried about refunds. Business will slowly begin to get back to normal. Limited travel and no big crowds. But most other businesses will be back within 2-3 weeks if for no reason than if they don’t, there won’t be much of a life to protect. People will lose their businesses, their homes...etc. Those most susceptible will need to protect themselves, and hopefully summer will come in and blast CoVid away. It will all become clear in a week or so.
Look I hope I'm wrong. But given how it has tracked in other nations that got hit early or in Europe now, this is at least a 2+ month scenario
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Thankfully the average age of people dying in Italy is over 80 years old. The US is in a much better place
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThankfully the average age of people dying in Italy is over 80 years old. The US is in a much better place
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo. Not. Happening. Early May at the earliest. States won't pull back on restrictions until cases go into significant decline, and even then they'll ease back slowly. Schools could re open but other non necessary things not. Youth sports would be non necessary.
Look I hope I'm wrong. But given how it has tracked in other nations that got hit early or in Europe now, this is at least a 2+ month scenario
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYouth sports will be the first things back. Lol. First of all, they’re outside. Secondly, they don’t draw big crowds of people. If schools are in session, youth sports will be. Maybe even sooner for the above reasons. But even in your scenario, if they start in May, the season will simply go through July is all. I don’t see any scenario where things don’t start back to normal in short order. Cratering the economy and 401K’s would leave people with very little to come back to. Don’t think for a second it won’t come into the equation.
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A two month China-like shut down takes us to Mid May. The problem with state modeling is if other states nearby don't do similar actions everyone will still be putting out fires all the time.
https://covidactnow.org/state/CT
China is just coming out of its cocoon, which was very tight. Most people are still wearing masks. Only about 1/3 of tourist attractions are open, most retail is back open. There are restrictions in some areas on how many can be there at any one time. If you travel internationally you have to be government quarantined for 14 days when you come back. They've stopped new cases inside the country but still have new cases from returning passengers. Manufacturing opened a few weeks ago but production is erratic due to workers still being quarantined, lack of supples etc.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesas.../#372676602488
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/b...s-economy.html
Students in schools get temperature checked each day and wear masks.
"The first day of school, as special as it already was, was also a social practice class for the students. Customized school buses, wearing masks, temperature checks, designated routes to classrooms -- the ritualistic preparations for class were educational enough for the students to learn how important it is to avoid the gathering of crowds and observe respiratory etiquette in public." http://www.china.org.cn/china/2020-0...t_75823811.htm
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I think end of May we will be back. The major change will be if they do get enough data to justify loosening restrictions based on the efficacy of the malaria drug. If they can realistically keep the mortality rate at 1% or under and reduce need for hospitalizations then people will want to get back to normal. We cant be quarantined for 6 month sbecause there will be no world to come back to. Once people stop paying credit cards, mortgages and rents because of extended unemployment we will plunge into a very deep hole, well beyond what we saw in 2008 and govt will prefer to risk a certain amount of deaths to avoid that.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think end of May we will be back. The major change will be if they do get enough data to justify loosening restrictions based on the efficacy of the malaria drug. If they can realistically keep the mortality rate at 1% or under and reduce need for hospitalizations then people will want to get back to normal. We cant be quarantined for 6 month sbecause there will be no world to come back to. Once people stop paying credit cards, mortgages and rents because of extended unemployment we will plunge into a very deep hole, well beyond what we saw in 2008 and govt will prefer to risk a certain amount of deaths to avoid that.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think end of May we will be back. The major change will be if they do get enough data to justify loosening restrictions based on the efficacy of the malaria drug. If they can realistically keep the mortality rate at 1% or under and reduce need for hospitalizations then people will want to get back to normal. We cant be quarantined for 6 month sbecause there will be no world to come back to. Once people stop paying credit cards, mortgages and rents because of extended unemployment we will plunge into a very deep hole, well beyond what we saw in 2008 and govt will prefer to risk a certain amount of deaths to avoid that.
Please, go on
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think end of May we will be back. The major change will be if they do get enough data to justify loosening restrictions based on the efficacy of the malaria drug. If they can realistically keep the mortality rate at 1% or under and reduce need for hospitalizations then people will want to get back to normal. We cant be quarantined for 6 month sbecause there will be no world to come back to. Once people stop paying credit cards, mortgages and rents because of extended unemployment we will plunge into a very deep hole, well beyond what we saw in 2008 and govt will prefer to risk a certain amount of deaths to avoid that.
Agree that people need to be smart. Protect the most vulnerable. And financially make it possible that anyone who is sick can stay home and survive. But if we don’t return to work soon, as someone else said, there won’t be much to return to and you will see issues and deaths from a host of other problems.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOne thing everyone seems to be missing. China was hit unexpectedly. We had time to prepare. Experts have been off every step of the way. 5% mortality rates couldn’t have been more wrong. Anywhere. Much less here. Reality is about a .6% mortality rate, maybe lower. We were supposed to follow Italy’s curve, but we are not. Not even close. High schools will be back after Easter. As will most businesses. Airline travel will be restricted. Pro sports non existent until the fall. Just follow the data. Don’t waste time with the experts that can’t even agree with each other. 60 deaths today with 6 hours left in the day (they use European time). Italy was in the hundreds each day by this point.
Agree that people need to be smart. Protect the most vulnerable. And financially make it possible that anyone who is sick can stay home and survive. But if we don’t return to work soon, as someone else said, there won’t be much to return to and you will see issues and deaths from a host of other problems.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOne thing everyone seems to be missing. China was hit unexpectedly. We had time to prepare. Experts have been off every step of the way. 5% mortality rates couldn’t have been more wrong. Anywhere. Much less here. Reality is about a .6% mortality rate, maybe lower. We were supposed to follow Italy’s curve, but we are not. Not even close. High schools will be back after Easter. As will most businesses. Airline travel will be restricted. Pro sports non existent until the fall. Just follow the data. Don’t waste time with the experts that can’t even agree with each other. 60 deaths today with 6 hours left in the day (they use European time). Italy was in the hundreds each day by this point.
Agree that people need to be smart. Protect the most vulnerable. And financially make it possible that anyone who is sick can stay home and survive. But if we don’t return to work soon, as someone else said, there won’t be much to return to and you will see issues and deaths from a host of other problems.
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