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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Where do you people come up with this nonsense. State tournament roster has Zero to do with the rule. Go read the rules again. They were posted yesterday.
    I tried really hard to find it - my head nearly exploded; who wrote that? - but where is the rule that says it is limited 6 players of any level vs it just being 6 varsity players? If a large HS like Staples has frosh, JV and varsity, that can easily exceed 6 club players, but not necessarily 6 varsity players, especially since he coaches U15 club. Page?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Where do you people come up with this nonsense. State tournament roster has Zero to do with the rule. Go read the rules again. They were posted yesterday.
      State tourney makes sense considering JV players can get moved up during the season. If it were based on beginning of the year, what stops a coach from moving up 5 more players from JV as soon as he files the roster early fall?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        State tourney makes sense considering JV players can get moved up during the season. If it were based on beginning of the year, what stops a coach from moving up 5 more players from JV as soon as he files the roster early fall?
        Again, it never specifies level, simply on the school roster. All players are on the school roster regardless of level.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I tried really hard to find it - my head nearly exploded; who wrote that? - but where is the rule that says it is limited 6 players of any level vs it just being 6 varsity players? If a large HS like Staples has frosh, JV and varsity, that can easily exceed 6 club players, but not necessarily 6 varsity players, especially since he coaches U15 club. Page?
          I think it starts around page 73?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Again, it never specifies level, simply on the school roster. All players are on the school roster regardless of level.
            But it doesn't clarify that the rule counts all HS teams and one specific coach. And what if a JV coach had 8 varsity players who played for him off season? It it counts all HS players towards the 6 then there's probably multiple coaches in violation of this rule across the state and in other sports. As was said with freshman JV and V teams it's not hard for a coach to have more than 6 players in the entire school on an outside team.

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              #36
              It's state tournament roster. Don't you think the AD at Staples has fielded 100 calls about this.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It's state tournament roster. Don't you think the AD at Staples has fielded 100 calls about this.
                No actually it isn’t.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It's state tournament roster. Don't you think the AD at Staples has fielded 100 calls about this.
                  Makes the most sense - otherwise he could just move up JV players. He can keep coaching them as U15 and maybe u16s and be ok. After that he'd have to drop back down to U15 again.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Again, it never specifies level, simply on the school roster. All players are on the school roster regardless of level.
                    It is varsity players only. A coach could coach the entire JV team in the off season if they want.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      No actually it isn’t.
                      Show us exactly where in the rule book your point is supported. I posit the same to other poster claiming it is the state tourney roster. CIAC folk must be paid based on the length of their god damm handbook

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        It is varsity players only. A coach could coach the entire JV team in the off season if they want.
                        Not true

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Show us exactly where in the rule book your point is supported. I posit the same to other poster claiming it is the state tourney roster. CIAC folk must be paid based on the length of their god damm handbook
                          Page 73
                          2.1 b

                          http://www.casciac.org/pdfs/ciachandbook_1920.pdf

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            2.1b. Member schools may not permit their coaches to coach or instruct their member
                            school athletes whose names appeared on the CIAC eligibility list for the sport in the
                            preceding season and have CIAC eligibility remaining in the sport which they coach
                            except under the exceptions listed in item 2.1.e. below (lists some sports excluded).

                            Still nothing on one team or all teams. Leave it to CIAC to take pages to explain nothing

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              2.1b. Member schools may not permit their coaches to coach or instruct their member
                              school athletes whose names appeared on the CIAC eligibility list for the sport in the
                              preceding season and have CIAC eligibility remaining in the sport which they coach
                              except under the exceptions listed in item 2.1.e. below (lists some sports excluded).

                              Still nothing on one team or all teams. Leave it to CIAC to take pages to explain nothing
                              This language is clear. None of the coaches (doesn't matter V, JV or F) can coach any of their school's athletes out of season as long as the students have eligibility remaining (except as listed in 2.1.e where a HS coach can coach up to 6 soccer players on a club team). Doesn't specify level because it doesn't matter. The V coach can't coach the freshmen. The freshman coach can't coach the V players etc. If you look at 2.1.c the CIAC even clarifies that the HS coaches can't coach incoming freshmen during the off season prior to HS either.

                              Staples is in obvious violation of this rule.

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                                #45
                                Not @ Staples and correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he been there for a few years? No doubt this issue has been raised with CIAC multiple times by competing coaches or shady parents. Never underestimate what others will do to try and disqualify a competitor. Seems CIAC is cool with it.

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