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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Because girls and women are weaker, here's the best approach.

    1) Have girls/women's only competition, based on traditional definitions of females.

    2) Every other gender, gender assignment, gender preference, etc., competes in the same single competition as traditional males.
    Here’s the issue with your post. THERES ONLY TWO GENDERS. Whatever you are is whatever you compete in. Stop feeding the sickness.

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      #17
      Exactly.

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        #18
        I'm pretty liberal and certainly are all for trans rights etc, but this is about SCIENCE. Men, even those taking suppression hormones etc, are built differently than women. Period. One step too far in PC culture.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Its amazing...USWNT is filing a lawsuit that's saying they are "physically equal" to men...

          These HS girls now have one saying they arent...
          They're not even physically equal to U16 DA boys. The women's team got their azzez handed to them a couple years ago by 15 year old's.

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            #20
            If it makes you as happy as it seems to ,I feel sorry for you little man.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I'm pretty liberal and certainly are all for trans rights etc, but this is about SCIENCE. Men, even those taking suppression hormones etc, are built differently than women. Period. One step too far in PC culture.
              Well Science proves you are wrong. At least about hormones. Once males have taken estrogen their advantage goes away. However in the Ciac case there were purpotedly no hormones taken.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Well Science proves you are wrong. At least about hormones. Once males have taken estrogen their advantage goes away. However in the Ciac case there were purpotedly no hormones taken.
                Wrong. no amount of estrogen reverses the advantages of years of testosterone on lung capacity, bone size, heart size and strength, and such from growing up as a biological male. Zero problem with someone being trans but hugely unfair to let bio born males compete as females.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Well Science proves you are wrong. At least about hormones. Once males have taken estrogen their advantage goes away. However in the Ciac case there were purpotedly no hormones taken.
                  1) You're totally wrong. See above
                  2) Even if it were true, we're talking about still growing teens who haven't been taking hormones for very long.

                  Trans rights absolutely 100%, but not in sports with biologically born males competing against biological females.

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                    #24
                    CIAC members have old ideas and the people there have no interest in furthering sports or the game, they worry more about teaching schools to cover their asses.

                    They worry more about liability than the game and the think they are the final word. It’s that arrogance and lack of back bone that has put them in this position, every female athlete should jump onto this lawsuit and hold everyone at CIAC accountable for the damage they caused female sports. Transgender players have the full right to participate in any sport of their choosing but they compete as they were born and not what they associate with.

                    CIAC needs new people and progressive ideas. The athletic directors would do a better job at governing there sports, maybe it should start there.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      CIAC members have old ideas and the people there have no interest in furthering sports or the game, they worry more about teaching schools to cover their asses.

                      They worry more about liability than the game and the think they are the final word. It’s that arrogance and lack of back bone that has put them in this position, every female athlete should jump onto this lawsuit and hold everyone at CIAC accountable for the damage they caused female sports. Transgender players have the full right to participate in any sport of their choosing but they compete as they were born and not what they associate with.

                      CIAC needs new people and progressive ideas. The athletic directors would do a better job at governing there sports, maybe it should start there.
                      While I agree with you, one could argue that transgenders competing as women is “progressive”. What we need is not to be regressive or progressive in some areas. We need to be consistent. Sometimes the wheel does not need to be reinvented.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Wrong. no amount of estrogen reverses the advantages of years of testosterone on lung capacity, bone size, heart size and strength, and such from growing up as a biological male. Zero problem with someone being trans but hugely unfair to let bio born males compete as females.
                        One year after taking female hormones the advantage is gone

                        https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/f...2011_Final.pdf

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          One year after taking female hormones the advantage is gone

                          https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/f...2011_Final.pdf
                          Do you even read what you link??

                          The extent to which, if any, the aforementioned sex differences influence sport
                          performance is yet to be determined. Additionally, whether differences in hormone levels
                          between men and women mediate these differences, with several exceptions, is also unknown.

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                            #28
                            Common sense through legislation. I hope the courts and Justice Depart rains holy hell on the CIAC

                            https://news.trust.org/item/20200331125044-obx3c

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              One year after taking female hormones the advantage is gone

                              https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/f...2011_Final.pdf
                              so when did these kids start their hormone regimens?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                so when did these kids start their hormone regimens?
                                thy didn't, nor do they have to ...just need to have a letter saying they are living their life as a female...read the rule

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