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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    CFC is going to make you think that this was not a problem for them. Make no mistake, this hurts CFC. They had a quality branch up and running. Money was flowing to the Mother Ship and Real would have gotten stronger as they grew. The difficult thing about the CFC model is logistics. Convincing players to leave decent branch teams with good coaching can be hard if the travel and cost is prohibitive. You also know it has to sting that they lost a branch to AC CT. Only thing worse for Coxon would be losing Branch to Rush. Coxon should try to reach out to Rush to replace Real. God knows the Rush coaches are fed up with JS right now and would love an offer.
    You make some fair points. It’s never good to lose a branch. Especially losing the branch after the de Novo period when branch has ramped up. I am sure it does sting to lose to ACC

    Let’s not go overboard Real is four years old. It’s not Arsenal. Damage isn’t mortal. It’s a flesh wound.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You make some fair points. It’s never good to lose a branch. Especially losing the branch after the de Novo period when branch has ramped up. I am sure it does sting to lose to ACC

      Let’s not go overboard Real is four years old. It’s not Arsenal. Damage isn’t mortal. It’s a flesh wound.
      CFC is certainly big enough to absorb the blow. Agreed it hurts, but probably more emotionally than anything else because it's AC. Then again, they have that fancy new facility to pay for. If they really want a bulkhead in that area they can start yet another branch. They've had many in those parts over the years. Some families may be able to move to other CFC branches. Not everyone would move over.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Rush and JS have had some recent stumbles. Emergency Board meeting in Wilton recently questioned whether JS and Rush should be involved. Rush also much more limited on field access recently. Something is brewing in the land of Lilly...
        Mickey making his move

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          CFC is certainly big enough to absorb the blow. Agreed it hurts, but probably more emotionally than anything else because it's AC. Then again, they have that fancy new facility to pay for. If they really want a bulkhead in that area they can start yet another branch. They've had many in those parts over the years. Some families may be able to move to other CFC branches. Not everyone would move over.
          CFC can play the long game ... PD can’t

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            CFC can play the long game ... PD can’t
            AC has done well enough in a few years. They'll be fine and CFC certainly will be fine. They've got just about the whole state covered, although some branches aren't very good.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Mickey making his move
              Only way that works is if JS is out - imagine that clash of personalities?!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                AC has done well enough in a few years. They'll be fine and CFC certainly will be fine. They've got just about the whole state covered, although some branches aren't very good.
                PD has bank rolled ACC. He won’t forever. Then what

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Only way that works is if JS is out - imagine that clash of personalities?!
                  Not if he gets his hands on Lilly field

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    PD has bank rolled ACC. He won’t forever. Then what
                    How much bank-rolling do you think he's doing? We're with AC and our fees are pretty comparable with other clubs; we don't do any more tournaments than other similar clubs. For sure they run with a very thin staff. They rent all their fields so other than possibly getting a break on NYA, which supposedly he doesn't own any longer? Bringing in more teams will help the bottom line, perhaps in anticipation of the teat being taken away.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Lots of chest thumping and back slapping for the merger of CFC Real; a three year old, money losing club.

                      How many people can honestly say that they heard of CFC Real prior to this merger
                      Maybe they got tired of get hosed by cfc brass

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        How much bank-rolling do you think he's doing? We're with AC and our fees are pretty comparable with other clubs; we don't do any more tournaments than other similar clubs. For sure they run with a very thin staff. They rent all their fields so other than possibly getting a break on NYA, which supposedly he doesn't own any longer? Bringing in more teams will help the bottom line, perhaps in anticipation of the teat being taken away.
                        He’s doing a lot to keep them afloat

                        You are incorrect ACC fees are lower than market.

                        You honestly think your fees are paying the coaches entire salaries and field rentals. Think again

                        Yes bringing in more teams does help if they pay.

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                          #42
                          I think the point of Real being New and not well known is a good point. However, I have been coaching against their branches for a few years. Real had good teams both boys and girls, that is absolutely a loss and it hurts CFC. They can pretend it doesn't, it does! Add to it the fact that it is AC, it's an ego smack in the face. I give CFC major kudos for building a facility, bold move. However, they need to get their nose to the grindstone. They have serious issues on the boys side. Strong branch teams are reluctant to release players to United. Their 2005 team is basically Ginga's B team. 2004, 2003 and 2002 Boys are also average. Branches like Sound are a joke on the boys side. For the girls they are still strong but they definitely better not get overconfident. Some weak branches like Sound and Chelsea. North branches seem to be solid. Wolves and Arsenal probably still best branches at younger ages.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            He’s doing a lot to keep them afloat

                            You are incorrect ACC fees are lower than market.

                            You honestly think your fees are paying the coaches entire salaries and field rentals. Think again

                            Yes bringing in more teams does help if they pay.
                            This is definitely a CFC Director/Owner talking!! Just because fees are lower than market does not mean teams are being subsidized. Beachside and FSA have the highest fees. Beachside because they pay there coaches $16,000-$18,000 per team and FSA because of facilities (coaches pay between $6,000-$8,000). Lot of clubs are charging between $2,300-$2,800 for registration. A few charge more. For many clubs that do not have a facility, that is going into owners pockets. If you want to run a team like AC CT you could charge $2,000/player pay the coach $10,000, pay refs, field rentals for indoor and outdoor, and any other minor costs and still turn a profit. Dont let the cash kings tell you otherwise.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This is definitely a CFC Director/Owner talking!! Just because fees are lower than market does not mean teams are being subsidized. Beachside and FSA have the highest fees. Beachside because they pay there coaches $16,000-$18,000 per team and FSA because of facilities (coaches pay between $6,000-$8,000). Lot of clubs are charging between $2,300-$2,800 for registration. A few charge more. For many clubs that do not have a facility, that is going into owners pockets. If you want to run a team like AC CT you could charge $2,000/player pay the coach $10,000, pay refs, field rentals for indoor and outdoor, and any other minor costs and still turn a profit. Dont let the cash kings tell you otherwise.
                              Hey tall dbag tell us where you direct

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This is definitely a CFC Director/Owner talking!! Just because fees are lower than market does not mean teams are being subsidized. Beachside and FSA have the highest fees. Beachside because they pay there coaches $16,000-$18,000 per team and FSA because of facilities (coaches pay between $6,000-$8,000). Lot of clubs are charging between $2,300-$2,800 for registration. A few charge more. For many clubs that do not have a facility, that is going into owners pockets. If you want to run a team like AC CT you could charge $2,000/player pay the coach $10,000, pay refs, field rentals for indoor and outdoor, and any other minor costs and still turn a profit. Dont let the cash kings tell you otherwise.
                                Sorry. It’s not a CFC director

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