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    #31
    Newton north

    A path to the tournament for NN:
    Win non-league games at Newton south (5-12-1 last year) and Milford (5-11-2). Tie the game at Andover (12-4-2 against possible a weak schedule, as they were immediately eliminated 5-0 in tournament by Acton-Boxborough)
    Against the Bay State smalls, win vs Dedham, Milton, Natick and Norwood. Tie Walpole and Wellesley.
    Against the Bay State bigs, manage a tie in one of the Weymouth games, and a win and a tie in the 4 games vs Braintree and Brookline.
    That would make NN 7-7-5.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      A path to the tournament for NN:
      Win non-league games at Newton south (5-12-1 last year) and Milford (5-11-2). Tie the game at Andover (12-4-2 against possible a weak schedule, as they were immediately eliminated 5-0 in tournament by Acton-Boxborough)
      Against the Bay State smalls, win vs Dedham, Milton, Natick and Norwood. Tie Walpole and Wellesley.
      Against the Bay State bigs, manage a tie in one of the Weymouth games, and a win and a tie in the 4 games vs Braintree and Brookline.
      That would make NN 7-7-5.
      I'd Say Newton North has a good chance to take 3 points from Brookline and 2 from Braintree. Non-League games are all winnable and should be accomplished. They played quite a few younger players last year who gained valuable experience. The Seniors that did graduate were nothing to write home about. Brookline could be at the bottom of the Carey division this fall very easily.

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        #33
        Norwood and your reading problems

        First of all, I said good enough, not playing on...learn to read please. Secondly, triplets? what on earth are you talking about?

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        This reminds me of the story of Brazilian triplets that had just moved to Norwood. We didn't bite. Hope this is true for league competitiveness, but if they are playing for Revolution, they won't be playing for Norwood.

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          #34
          Something easily overlooked is how unusual it is to have a big change from one year to the next. Here are records vs league opponents in 2014 compared to 2013
          Needham. 12-0-3 in 2014 after 10-0-5 in 2013; +2 points
          Framingham. 9-2-4 after 9-4-2; +2
          Brookline. 8-3-5 after 9-4-3; +0
          Weymouth. 8-7-1 after 6-6-3; +1 (considering 1 add'l game)
          Braintree. 6-6-4 after 7-9-1; +1
          Newton north. 3-11-2 after 2-10-4; +0
          Wellesley. 11-5-2 after 12-1-4; -4
          Natick. 10-6-2 after 11-5-1; -1
          Walpole. 9-4-3 after 7-7-2; +5
          Dedham. 2-10-2 after 1-8-1 (that's obviously incomplete); +3?
          Milton. 1-13-2 after 2-11-1; -1
          Norwood. 0-12-2 after 0-11-1 (also incomplete); +0
          Yes, this is a bit generous, as the - do not balance out the + due to some unreported results and minor differences in schedules between the seasons. But, the point is the same: it's unusual for a team to move more than 5 pts from one season to the next. You can look to prior years and see the same, although exceptions of greater moves can surely by found.
          The scenario about NN is possible, but it meant going 5-7-4 in the league, for a move of +6. It can happen, but it should be considered less than a 50% chance.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Something easily overlooked is how unusual it is to have a big change from one year to the next. Here are records vs league opponents in 2014 compared to 2013
            Needham. 12-0-3 in 2014 after 10-0-5 in 2013; +2 points
            Framingham. 9-2-4 after 9-4-2; +2
            Brookline. 8-3-5 after 9-4-3; +0
            Weymouth. 8-7-1 after 6-6-3; +1 (considering 1 add'l game)
            Braintree. 6-6-4 after 7-9-1; +1
            Newton north. 3-11-2 after 2-10-4; +0
            Wellesley. 11-5-2 after 12-1-4; -4
            Natick. 10-6-2 after 11-5-1; -1
            Walpole. 9-4-3 after 7-7-2; +5
            Dedham. 2-10-2 after 1-8-1 (that's obviously incomplete); +3?
            Milton. 1-13-2 after 2-11-1; -1
            Norwood. 0-12-2 after 0-11-1 (also incomplete); +0
            Yes, this is a bit generous, as the - do not balance out the + due to some unreported results and minor differences in schedules between the seasons. But, the point is the same: it's unusual for a team to move more than 5 pts from one season to the next. You can look to prior years and see the same, although exceptions of greater moves can surely by found.
            The scenario about NN is possible, but it meant going 5-7-4 in the league, for a move of +6. It can happen, but it should be considered less than a 50% chance.

            Needham has some talent, but I suspect this same analysis will have them -4 after this year. They have only one known scorer and a few potentials, but most of their scoring graduated. If they don't utilize the other unknowns then the one known will be easy enough to mark.

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              #36
              Pro's and Con's for each Bay State League Team

              Needham
              Pro: Top Level Talent year in and year out even after graduating several quality players
              Con: New Head coach with no varsity experience

              Framingham
              Pro: Easily one of the best attacking teams with loads of individual skill
              Con: Lack the cohesion of playing as a unit, easy to frustrate them

              Weymouth
              Pro: 9 Returning players and should be strong up the middle
              Con: Lack a quality goal scoring threat, and will rely on Set pieces for goals

              Braintree
              Pro: Will Beat you up physically and out work almost every team in the league
              Con: limit talent to compete in a quality style of soccer, resorts to kick ball

              Brookline
              Pro: Toughest Home fields to play at for baystate league opponents, always play well @home
              Con: Huge Graduating class last year, Will be a struggle to replace quality seniors

              Newton North
              Pro: It cant get much worse than the past two seasons...... right?
              Con: Poor coaching and poor overall team play with few talented players

              Wellesley
              Pro: Great coach, Very technical sound team, great in possession
              Con: SCORING will be a major issue this year, relying on underlcassmen to get job done

              Walpole
              Pro: Big, Physical, solid defensive team. Will concede very few goals
              Con: Coach has the team sit back and plays for ties and 1-0 wins

              Natick
              Pro: Promising upside of younger players but could be a year away from competing
              con: Graduate some extremely quality players, should drop off this fall

              Milton
              Pro: Solid coach who got the best out of players last year, surprise results
              con: Poor youth program with little dedication to soccer, lack talented players

              Norwood
              Pro: solid freshmen classes the past 2 season,could lead to a slight improvement 4th herget?
              Con: Poor coaching, limited talent from upper classmen, could be a long season

              Dedham
              Pro: Things can only go up? Look for a young team to get experience for next season
              Con: Program is a complete mess, if only they could have a few of the girls play they could win a game or two.....

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Pro's and Con's for each Bay State League Team

                Needham
                Pro: Top Level Talent year in and year out even after graduating several quality players
                Con: New Head coach with no varsity experience

                Framingham
                Pro: Easily one of the best attacking teams with loads of individual skill
                Con: Lack the cohesion of playing as a unit, easy to frustrate them

                Weymouth
                Pro: 9 Returning players and should be strong up the middle
                Con: Lack a quality goal scoring threat, and will rely on Set pieces for goals

                Braintree
                Pro: Will Beat you up physically and out work almost every team in the league
                Con: limit talent to compete in a quality style of soccer, resorts to kick ball

                Brookline
                Pro: Toughest Home fields to play at for baystate league opponents, always play well @home
                Con: Huge Graduating class last year, Will be a struggle to replace quality seniors

                Newton North
                Pro: It cant get much worse than the past two seasons...... right?
                Con: Poor coaching and poor overall team play with few talented players

                Wellesley
                Pro: Great coach, Very technical sound team, great in possession
                Con: SCORING will be a major issue this year, relying on underlcassmen to get job done

                Walpole
                Pro: Big, Physical, solid defensive team. Will concede very few goals
                Con: Coach has the team sit back and plays for ties and 1-0 wins

                Natick
                Pro: Promising upside of younger players but could be a year away from competing
                con: Graduate some extremely quality players, should drop off this fall

                Milton
                Pro: Solid coach who got the best out of players last year, surprise results
                con: Poor youth program with little dedication to soccer, lack talented players

                Norwood
                Pro: solid freshmen classes the past 2 season,could lead to a slight improvement 4th herget?
                Con: Poor coaching, limited talent from upper classmen, could be a long season

                Dedham
                Pro: Things can only go up? Look for a young team to get experience for next season
                Con: Program is a complete mess, if only they could have a few of the girls play they could win a game or two.....
                This is pretty reasonable. Not sure about Weymouth relying on set pieces - didn't seem to threaten with them last year. Walpole was the team highly reliant on throw-ins and free kicks to score.
                Another way to think of the league this year: which teams can score? Maybe 3 teams will average 2 goals in league play: Framingham, Needham and Walpole. If someone else can do it, they'll have a really good year.

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                  #38
                  Notice zero talk about keepers in the league? Think are at least a couple very good ones. The tone of this thread seems to be that defending will be ahead of attacking in the league this year. Maybe that won't be true if good keeper play is found in only a few teams.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Notice zero talk about keepers in the league? Think are at least a couple very good ones. The tone of this thread seems to be that defending will be ahead of attacking in the league this year. Maybe that won't be true if good keeper play is found in only a few teams.

                    Needham has a sleeper keeper......

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Notice zero talk about keepers in the league? Think are at least a couple very good ones. The tone of this thread seems to be that defending will be ahead of attacking in the league this year. Maybe that won't be true if good keeper play is found in only a few teams.
                      Weymouth has a Returning Keeper which help improve there backline, Could be the best keeper in the league. Something to watch for.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Weymouth has a Returning Keeper which help improve there backline, Could be the best keeper in the league. Something to watch for.

                        Perhaps....but will he appear great in a league with little offense? Aside from Wellesley sophomore and Needham senior....perhaps a player or two from Framingham...what is there?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Perhaps....but will he appear great in a league with little offense? Aside from Wellesley sophomore and Needham senior....perhaps a player or two from Framingham...what is there?
                          Maybe it's always this way, that there are many unknowns, until they emerge in whatever their sport is, and then they're discovered. And no one identified them in advance.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Perhaps....but will he appear great in a league with little offense? Aside from Wellesley sophomore and Needham senior....perhaps a player or two from Framingham...what is there?
                            Wellesley Sophomore will be playing Bolts Academy

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Wellesley Sophomore will be playing Bolts Academy
                              Oh. Then wellesley has nothing this year.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Oh. Then wellesley has nothing this year.
                                What do you think their record or place in the league will be?

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